Dragonbait
Explorer
Because I have trouble understand most hatred for races beyond some obnoxious player/GM portreyed a race a certain obnoxious way and the other people used that as their basis for understanding a race.
What's with the Gnome Hate?
- Thread starter Sylrae
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Because I have trouble understand most hatred for races beyond some obnoxious player/GM portreyed a race a certain obnoxious way and the other people used that as their basis for understanding a race.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
The 3E race books were based on environment. When you do a book about races that live in the mountains and hills, where would you put the gnomes?
Same goes for halflings: There was a book about the wilderness. They stuck in halflings as one of those races, since they didn't make as much sense in the mountain book and wouldn't fit into the upcoming city book (which they strangely insisted on calling "Races of Destiny.")
Dragonbait
Explorer
removed double post.
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Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
The Internet is full of inexplicable opinions.
And I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having double-post issues today.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Wil Huygen's gnome books were insanely popular in the late 1970s, starting with the publication of the first one in 1977. Heck, I remember in my household, we had a great rip-off about dwarves that for years I assumed was part of AD&D canon, given how well-realized they were.
A lot of the early D&D influences are no longer as popular as they once were, from the Dying Earth books (which I've never encountered a non-D&D player who's even heard of them) to the never-quite-catches-fire-as-a-reissue Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser books.
Wil Huygen's gnome books are in that same category.
Unless you count folk tales, in which case gnomes are all over the place. Even Santa Claus employs little guys -- called elves, but clearly not D&D elves -- who most closely resemble gnomes.
Gray elves unfortunately occupy that position in most campaigns, but that's a topic for another thread.
Vocenoctum
First Post
The Internet is full of inexplicable opinions.
I had a player that always played a dwarf, and he was a big guy with a red beard and he WAS a dwarf. He did great.
An ex-gf of my brothers was our resident kender. She played it to a tee without being obnoxious about it. (She was a Kender Barbarian and still packed a wallop...)
Some folks just get a warped view of a race and try to play it up, others just want to be obnoxious and use the race/ class/ alignment to justify their oddity.
EN2 has been timing out/ unresponsive/ crashing on me a lot and these long threads are irritating in the best of times for keeping track of stuff said.
Your use of absolutes is the downfall of your argument.
If it were literally everyone, and literally never, we'd not be having this discussion. There's enough gnome love around that this sort of topic comes up on these boards pretty frequently. This very discussion exists because some folks do, and have, liked them.
So please, next time, leave off the dismissive absolutes, okay?
The Little Raven
First Post
This is true, but to be frank about it, the threads tend to come from the same, small group of gnome lovers. They may be vocal, but aren't necessarily a large and growing selection of the community.
