D&D 4E Where was 4e headed before it was canned?

[Garthanos]

How much do you really need though? You say we have nothing and yet some of seem to be able to take what we have and work from there.

Brilliant and your players probably knew before sitting down at your table what to expect too... and you had a brilliant conversation where that was conveyed with ease and grace and zero of that came from the game

 

[Garthanos]

To be fair this is a different action... grabbing someone before they fall... than the one originally proposed... Using acrobatics to leap after the person and ensure neither of you take any damage when hitting the ground.

Its also not really an acrobatic action is it? I think that is significant its virtually unskilled. (your raw dex check)

 

[Garthanos]

You do realize the DMG has optional rules for lingering injuries, longer rest times, hero points, boons, etc...right? There are actual options to tweak combat to suit different genres, tropes, etc. throughout the book.

Color me a space cadet.

 

[Imaro]

Its also not really an acrobatic action is it? I think that is significant its virtually unskilled. (your raw dex check)

Oh I agree, my point being you can't cite this as inconsistency in rulings when what is being ruled upon is different in each instance.

 

[Garthanos]

Oh I agree, my point being you can't cite this as inconsistency in rulings when what is being ruled upon is different in each instance.

It still leaves no ability to know what might actually be possible with the use of a skill regardless

 

[Parmandur]

It still leaves no ability to know what might actually be possible with the use of a skill regardless

The possibilities are formally without limit, as borne out in practice.

 

[Garthanos]

The possibilities are formally without limit, as borne out in practice.

Except they might step on the toes of some obscure spell... among the ever creeping millions (yes exaggeration)

 

[Garthanos]

No ability to even conjecture ahead of time aside from reading your DM.

 

[Parmandur]

No ability to even conjecture ahead of time aside from reading your DM.

Sometimes you just gotta roll the dice in the moment.

 

[Garthanos]

I predict a lot of I just hit it with my sword or fix it with my highly predictable spell at many many many tables and zero diving after falling allies. Not everyone is comfortable with 25 percent odds