Which currently non-core classes would you add?

[Howndawg]

Swashbuckler
Spirit Shaman
Archivist
Dread Necromancer
Beguiler

 

[jeffh]

Binder and Mageblade from AE. Any reasonably good facsimile of the mageblade will do, however.

Binder? I have AE and several of the support products and I've never heard of any "binder" class.

 

[ruleslawyer]

I would like to see a Loremaster class, a character that know lots and lots of thing, also magic but not as powerful as a wizard of flashy as a warlock,

his magic maybe would be more of the Inner Power Source (secret of various kind), he should be able to do "magical" thing with his lore,

a character able to speaks lots of languages as a native, able to read forgotten rune and ancient writings.....

I believe that's just called a multiclassed wizard/expert.

I'm not a fan of umpteen core classes, so this comes with a grain of salt, but it seems to me that most of these concepts are already dealt with.

Archivist: Wizard with different flavor.
Battle sorcerer/duskblade/mageblade: Isn't the swordmage supposed to take up this slot?
Beguiler/spellthief: Multiclassed wizard/rogue with specialized spell selection. We know that multiclassing spellcasters will suck less in 4e.
Dread Necromancer Wizard with specialized spell selection. Honestly, we don't even know how the wizard is going to work in 4e, so it's possible that we'll get super-specialization. (I'd love to see that, FWIW; the dread necromancer and warmage were IMO much better takes on specialist casters than the school-specialists of core 3e.)
Favored soul: Just a cleric with a different spellcasting mechanic, which is probably going away in 4e anyway (no sorcerer suggests to me no spontaneous casting).
Healer: Hopefully irrelevant given that all PCs get self-healing capability and the cleric and warlord both boost that.
Knight: Thought the fighter and paladin already killed him and took his stuff. My guess is that the knight is probably easily re-created using the 4e fighter and paladin.
Ninja: Mang, it's 2007 already. Anyway, isn't this just a rogue with a Japanese name?
Witch: Probably easy enough to build using a wizard by a different name.

IMO, the oddities are the artificer, binder, dragon shaman, spirit shaman, and {insert shapeshifter class name here}. All of those are geared around sets of mechanics that don't seem to be contemplated for the PHB1.

 

[jeffh]

Something Mage Blade / Duskblade / Spellswordish
Swordsage (from Book of Nine Swords)

That's about it. The eight that seem to be confirmed now cover a lot of ground, given the greater flexibility classes seem to have under 4E.

 

[ruleslawyer]

Binder? I have AE and several of the support products and I've never heard of any "binder" class.

I think he meant binder [from Tome of Magic], and mageblade from AE.

 

[TerraDave]

I like the list from "Races and Classes" (which means adding swordmage to the op).

I would like the explicit option for the following (which may not be full, free standing, classes).
--Assasin
--Cloistered Cleric
--Illusionist
--Necromancer
--Loremaster/sage
--Swashbuckler

 

[Lenaianel]

Binder
Beguiler
Spirit Shaman

 

[Imp]

I was under the impression that the ToM Binder was being subsumed in the new Warlock class, which sounds very very good to me.

It's sounding more like the core fighter is not going to be able to handle the swashbuckler concept, in which case, I vote swashbuckler. No, the swashbuckler is not a rogue thief who "doesn't want to admit it." Yeah, shut up.

I also want a swordsage/monk/martial-artist merge, which might even be able to handle swashbucklers (like Hong's martial artist class does) in which case, just that will be fine.

 

[Mercule]

I was under the impression that the ToM Binder was being subsumed in the new Warlock class, which sounds very very good to me.

It's sounding more like the core fighter is not going to be able to handle the swashbuckler concept, in which case, I vote swashbuckler. No, the swashbuckler is not a rogue thief who "doesn't want to admit it." Yeah, shut up.

Yes and yes. Though, I still hold out hope that the 4E fighter will really be up to the swashbuckler challenge.

Instead of the swordmage, though, I'd just add multiclassing rules that worked for the concept.

I'd rather see swordsage than monk, too.

And some sort of customizable dread necro/beguiler/warmage class. That's the right way to build a specialist wizard.

I'm assuming psi as a PHB2 source, and I'm fine with that. I'll add that the ardent should be included as a principle psi class, though. I hope the shadowcaster makes PHB2, too.

I'd make the paladin serve a war-role similar to the current cleric and make the cleric into a spell-focused priest.

Most importantly, though, I'd add a ranger (hearty and martial powered) instead of a renamed scout or petulant druid-rogue crossbreed.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think it need some sort of Witch class. Considering how common that archetype is in fantasy, it's always struck me as odd that there has never been an official one, really (closest was the Adept, really).

Hard to argue with that.

The Archivist is also a good candidate.

I love me some Swashbucklers, but I'm not against just building one with a rogue.