Creamsteak
Explorer
Wombat said:
Make sure to grab some of the extras that people accidently posted in this thread:
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83261&page=2
Which of these books are you buying?
- Thread starter Creamsteak
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Make sure to grab some of the extras that people accidently posted in this thread:
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83261&page=2
jstater
First Post
Expanded Psionics Handbook: Maybe
D&D Map Folio I: No
Complete Divine: Yes
Eberron Campaign Setting: No
Planar Handbook: No
Races of Stone: No
D&D Map Folio II: No
D&D Basic Set: No
Monster Manual III: Maybe
Frostburn : No
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No
Special Edition Player's Handbook: Maybe, depending on what it is
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: Yes
Sharn : City of Towers: No
Races of the Wild: No
Map Folio 3-D: No
D&D Map Folio I: No
Complete Divine: Yes
Eberron Campaign Setting: No
Planar Handbook: No
Races of Stone: No
D&D Map Folio II: No
D&D Basic Set: No
Monster Manual III: Maybe
Frostburn : No
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No
Special Edition Player's Handbook: Maybe, depending on what it is
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: Yes
Sharn : City of Towers: No
Races of the Wild: No
Map Folio 3-D: No
Wombat
First Post
Okay, here are the results-to-this-point.
Based on 71 responses, I used these scores -- Yes = 4, Probably Yes = 3, Maybe = 2, Probably Not = 1, No = 0. In the case of nonstandard answers (???, I dunno, etc.), I made as close of a guess as I could, aiming higher (thus an answer of "??" = Maybe = 2).
The results are listed as "raw votes" and standard division average (# of votes divided by 71, the number of respondents).
If someone wants to check my maths, please do so
Expanded Psionics Handbook: 163/2.30
D&D Map Folio I: 52/0.73
Complete Divine: 186/2.62
Eberron Campaign Setting: 118/1.66
Planar Handbook: 135/1.90
Races of Stone: 119/1.68
D&D Map Folio II: 49/0.68
D&D Basic Set: 69/0.97
Monster Manual III: 195/2.75
Frostburn : 112/1.58
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: 60/0.85
Special Edition Player's Handbook: 55/0.77
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: 172/2.43
Shining South: 77/1.08
Complete Arcane: 189/2.66
Sharn : City of Towers: 66/0.93
Races of the Wild: 107/1.51
Map Folio 3-D: 43/0.61
So, what does this show?
The top scores are for the Monster Manual, the Complete Divine & Arcane, Liber Mortis, and the Psionics book. All of these rated 2+; the Planar Manual was pretty close. Overall, the closer the book is to being a "Core" book, the more likely it is to attract general attention.
I think the Basic Set got a low score primarily because this site is for pretty much experienced gamers; I think the sales will be higher than expressed here.
OTOH, man, WotC better do something pretty spiffy if it wants the Special Edition to sell...
All other conclusions, I leave to you
Based on 71 responses, I used these scores -- Yes = 4, Probably Yes = 3, Maybe = 2, Probably Not = 1, No = 0. In the case of nonstandard answers (???, I dunno, etc.), I made as close of a guess as I could, aiming higher (thus an answer of "??" = Maybe = 2).
The results are listed as "raw votes" and standard division average (# of votes divided by 71, the number of respondents).
If someone wants to check my maths, please do so
Expanded Psionics Handbook: 163/2.30
D&D Map Folio I: 52/0.73
Complete Divine: 186/2.62
Eberron Campaign Setting: 118/1.66
Planar Handbook: 135/1.90
Races of Stone: 119/1.68
D&D Map Folio II: 49/0.68
D&D Basic Set: 69/0.97
Monster Manual III: 195/2.75
Frostburn : 112/1.58
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: 60/0.85
Special Edition Player's Handbook: 55/0.77
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: 172/2.43
Shining South: 77/1.08
Complete Arcane: 189/2.66
Sharn : City of Towers: 66/0.93
Races of the Wild: 107/1.51
Map Folio 3-D: 43/0.61
So, what does this show?
The top scores are for the Monster Manual, the Complete Divine & Arcane, Liber Mortis, and the Psionics book. All of these rated 2+; the Planar Manual was pretty close. Overall, the closer the book is to being a "Core" book, the more likely it is to attract general attention.
I think the Basic Set got a low score primarily because this site is for pretty much experienced gamers; I think the sales will be higher than expressed here.
OTOH, man, WotC better do something pretty spiffy if it wants the Special Edition to sell...
All other conclusions, I leave to you
Creamsteak
Explorer
This being such a hardcore gamer crowd has a lot to do with it, and I think factoring in the other poll on the front page where it shows that the vast majority of people are reducing their RPG spending habits shows something as well...
scruffygrognard
Adventurer
I won't be buying much...
Expanded Psionics Handbook: No. I've haven't used psionics for over 20 years. They're not my style.
D&D Map Folio I: No. I make my own maps and have downloaded over 100 from the internet.
Complete Divine: Yes
Eberron Campaign Setting: No. I only run a homebrew game.
Planar Handbook: Maybe... though I doubt it.
Races of Stone: No. I only play FR and will onlt by the Player's Guides.
D&D Map Folio II: No. See above
D&D Basic Set: No... though the kitsch value makes it appealing.
Monster Manual III: Not unless it has some classic creatures.
Frostburn: No. From what little I've read it seems like this series of books will be The Wilderness Survival Guide or Dungeoneer Survival Guide of 3.5 (I hated those books).
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No. If I don't buy Eberron, it'd be silly to buy this.
Special Edition Player's Handbook: Maybe. Other than a leather cover, I'd want the book errata free and full of new art by WotC's better artists.
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No.
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: Yes.
Sharn: City of Towers: No. See above.
Races of the Wild: No.
Map Folio 3-D: No. See above.
In a nutshell, I'm only buying the core books and the class books for use in my game. I don't need endless books to come up with endless options, I just need a little imagination and a little knowledge of game mechanics.
Expanded Psionics Handbook: No. I've haven't used psionics for over 20 years. They're not my style.
D&D Map Folio I: No. I make my own maps and have downloaded over 100 from the internet.
Complete Divine: Yes
Eberron Campaign Setting: No. I only run a homebrew game.
Planar Handbook: Maybe... though I doubt it.
Races of Stone: No. I only play FR and will onlt by the Player's Guides.
D&D Map Folio II: No. See above
D&D Basic Set: No... though the kitsch value makes it appealing.
Monster Manual III: Not unless it has some classic creatures.
Frostburn: No. From what little I've read it seems like this series of books will be The Wilderness Survival Guide or Dungeoneer Survival Guide of 3.5 (I hated those books).
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No. If I don't buy Eberron, it'd be silly to buy this.
Special Edition Player's Handbook: Maybe. Other than a leather cover, I'd want the book errata free and full of new art by WotC's better artists.
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No.
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: Yes.
Sharn: City of Towers: No. See above.
Races of the Wild: No.
Map Folio 3-D: No. See above.
In a nutshell, I'm only buying the core books and the class books for use in my game. I don't need endless books to come up with endless options, I just need a little imagination and a little knowledge of game mechanics.
Ao the Overkitty
First Post
Expanded Psionics Handbook: No
D&D Map Folio I: No
Complete Divine: No
Eberron Campaign Setting: No
Planar Handbook: No
Races of Stone: No
D&D Map Folio II: No
D&D Basic Set: No
Monster Manual III: Probably Not
Frostburn : No
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No
Special Edition Player's Handbook: No
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: No
Sharn : City of Towers: No
Races of the Wild: No
Map Folio 3-D: No
This list might change by the end of the year, but right now, I've got this feeling that I have enough D&D books. Yes, I know, sacrilege. I've just seen an emphasis on including every single book in our group over the past couple of years and I haven't seen it have a positive influence on the game, as a whole. Sure, the adventures are definately more difficult and deadly, but I've found that the most fun and interesting games for us are when we're faced with some plot that has to do with something from one of the three core books.
D&D Map Folio I: No
Complete Divine: No
Eberron Campaign Setting: No
Planar Handbook: No
Races of Stone: No
D&D Map Folio II: No
D&D Basic Set: No
Monster Manual III: Probably Not
Frostburn : No
Eberron Whispers of the Vampire's Blade: No
Special Edition Player's Handbook: No
Libris Mortis The Book of Undead: No
Shining South: No
Complete Arcane: No
Sharn : City of Towers: No
Races of the Wild: No
Map Folio 3-D: No
This list might change by the end of the year, but right now, I've got this feeling that I have enough D&D books. Yes, I know, sacrilege. I've just seen an emphasis on including every single book in our group over the past couple of years and I haven't seen it have a positive influence on the game, as a whole. Sure, the adventures are definately more difficult and deadly, but I've found that the most fun and interesting games for us are when we're faced with some plot that has to do with something from one of the three core books.
MonsterMash
First Post
Simple answer NO to all except the MMIII and that's possibly when I see it.
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