Which PrCl would you never want in your game? (part 1 - DMG)

Which PrCl would you never want in your game?

  • Arcane Archer

    Votes: 33 9.6%
  • Arcane Trickster

    Votes: 25 7.2%
  • Archmage

    Votes: 26 7.5%
  • Assassin

    Votes: 44 12.8%
  • Blackguard

    Votes: 45 13.0%
  • Dragon Disciple

    Votes: 94 27.2%
  • Duelist

    Votes: 19 5.5%
  • Dwarven Defender

    Votes: 17 4.9%
  • Eldritch Knight

    Votes: 27 7.8%
  • Hierophant

    Votes: 34 9.9%
  • Horizon Walker

    Votes: 67 19.4%
  • Loremaster

    Votes: 26 7.5%
  • Mystic Theurge

    Votes: 70 20.3%
  • Red Wizard

    Votes: 135 39.1%
  • Shadowdancer

    Votes: 29 8.4%
  • Thaumaturgist

    Votes: 49 14.2%


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Storm Raven said:
Not even as NPCs?

I was only thinking of PCs, but I really don't like the entire concept of anti-paladins (and a blackguard is just a renamed anti-paladin) or semi-spellcasting assassins, and don't play in FR.
 

drothgery said:
I was only thinking of PCs, but I really don't like the entire concept of anti-paladins (and a blackguard is just a renamed anti-paladin)

Sort of. I guess if you don't like unholy warriors running around causing trouble for the good guys that's your business.

or semi-spellcasting assassins,


I like it, tied them to a particular guild, located in a specific city on the edge of a desert.

and don't play in FR.

Evil covens of wizards don't translate into your game at all? Just rename their fluff.
 

After experiencing the Mystic Thurge in one of my campaigns, I hope I never see one again. I find them over powered. Not to mention the half hour needed to go over thier spell list, every time a change is required.
 

tylerthehobo said:
I don't have a beef with any of this, and while overpowered, I always dug the Dragon Disciple.

(Granted, I've never DMed one, only played as one...heheh)


It's not worth it. Trust me. I ruined a perfectly good character by picking up that PrC.
 

devilbat said:
After experiencing the Mystic Thurge in one of my campaigns, I hope I never see one again. I find them over powered. Not to mention the half hour needed to go over thier spell list, every time a change is required.

They are less powerful than a single-classed wizard with the Leadership feat and a cleric cohort (or vice versa). I have never figured out what made people scared of the relatively low power of the Mystic Theurge.
 

Storm Raven said:
They are less powerful than a single-classed wizard with the Leadership feat and a cleric cohort (or vice versa). I have never figured out what made people scared of the relatively low power of the Mystic Theurge.

I agree, the Mystic Theurge has less feats than a normal straight classed wizard and is really no worse than dual/multi classing as a cleric/wizard in 2nd edition.
 



Storm Raven said:
Sort of. I guess if you don't like unholy warriors running around causing trouble for the good guys that's your business.

Unholy warriors are fine, they just have a PrC approriate to the champions of $INSERT_EVIL_DEITY_HERE$. Unholy warriors that are dark mirror images of paladins, or very nearly that, are cheesy.
 

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