who else loves the C&C...?

[Greg K]

Now, whether you prefer a more fine-grained approach is another question. I find that C&C gains more than it loses. Others may disagree. :shrugs:

Not only do I prefer a more fine-grained approach, lack of such is a deal breaker for me when it comes to rpgs.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Not only do I prefer a more fine-grained approach, lack of such is a deal breaker for me when it comes to rpgs.

Fair enough.

 

[Grimstaff]

On a side note, I picked up a 2000 copy of "Mortality of Green" (sp?) in a bargain bin the other day ($1.25 heh) and was amused to find it was designed for the "Sword and Sorcery" role-playing system, and included a 2-page mini-guide to the system in the back of the module. Interesting stuff, sort of d20-ish, with some cool class descriptions and alternate abilities. The ability bonus chart was the same as is used in C&C, but I didn't notice many other direct parallels, though this certainly must have been a progenitor.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

On a side note, I picked up a 2000 copy of "Mortality of Green" (sp?) in a bargain bin the other day ($1.25 heh) and was amused to find it was designed for the "Sword and Sorcery" role-playing system...The ability bonus chart was the same as is used in C&C, but I didn't notice many other direct parallels, though this certainly must have been a progenitor.

Yeah, it was. I didn't know there was a Sword & Sorcery version. There was a d20 version, and there's a C&C version of Mortality of Green, too.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Mortality of Green any good?


Anyway, re: C&C. . . I'm intrigued by it. That's basically where I'm at. I think I can foresee cases where it'd be really handy, really quick, and also really cool to be able to incorporate so much older material so easily. The temptation is there. It's only a matter of time, probably.

 

[Grimstaff]

Mortality of Green any good?

I havn't played it, but it reads ok. Looks like the party has to chase a "Troll Lord" through a forest after he steals a magic tree sapling.

Of course, this is the first (and probably roughest) of 3 versions, so it may be somewhat different in the newest version...

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I'd have to say my biggest problem with C&C, other than the horrible dragons in M&T, is TLG itself. While they appear to be great guys they seem to bite off more than they can chew, at least to the outside observer. I paid for a bi-monthly subscription to their magazine, the Crusader. Well about 2 years later I have gotten 4 issues. Of course they still have my money. That kind of annoys me. At this point it isn't much money lost, just a broken promise made when I signed up for a bi-monthly sub that is actually bi-yearly...if that. Due to health reasons it looks like CZ will be a largely Kuntz written project from Gary's drafts, an idea that doesn't fill me with joy but may still be good.

Anyway I wouldn't count on ever seeing a Castle Keepers Guide, it may come out, but I honestly doubt it.

 

[PapersAndPaychecks]

I'd have to say my biggest problem with C&C, other than the horrible dragons in M&T, is TLG itself.

I'm sure the trolls have the very best of intentions.

You can combine a lot of other stuff with their system -- or indeed, a lot of their stuff with another system -- if you choose, so it's not as if there's all that much of a lack of support really. Rob Kuntz' stuff, for example, can be used with C&C almost directly, if you have the math to convert the ACs in your head.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Mortality of Green any good?

I haven't played it, either, but as Grimstaff said, it reads okay.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I'm sure the trolls have the very best of intentions.

You can combine a lot of other stuff with their system -- or indeed, a lot of their stuff with another system -- if you choose, so it's not as if there's all that much of a lack of support really. Rob Kuntz' stuff, for example, can be used with C&C almost directly, if you have the math to convert the ACs in your head.

Rob Kuntz's RPG writing has never impressed me unfortunately, which is why I find modules to be often weak and filled with really goofy stuff. That is why I'm afraid about the final CZ products since Gary's health doesn't allow him to be as productive as he otherwise would be.

I'm sure they have the best of intentions too, but you don't make a promise to your customer then not come though. That's bad business.