Who Else Thinks This Chick is Hot?

[IanB]

This thread strikes me as Exhibit A in "why D&D has trouble reaching female gamers." If it isn't the art, it is the male gamers.

I understand we're not supposed to be raining on the parade, per the moderator edit at the beginning of the thread, but really a line is crossed at some point when we start using terms like "broads" - and I'm more than a little bummed that a moderator is participating wholesale.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

This thread strikes me as Exhibit A in "why D&D has trouble reaching female gamers." If it isn't the art, it is the male gamers.

I understand we're not supposed to be raining on the parade, per the moderator edit at the beginning of the thread, but really a line is crossed at some point when we start using terms like "broads" - and I'm more than a little bummed that a moderator is participating wholesale.

I'm a broad/chick/skirt/whatever you wanna call me and I read through this whole thread today and found absolutely nothing offensive.

In fact, most of the men's responses made me feel really good about myself because they were noting that they like women aren't overly skinny. And hearing guys say that skinny chicks need a sammich is always refreshing.

 

[IanB]

I'm a broad/chick/skirt/whatever you wanna call me and I read through this whole thread today and found absolutely nothing offensive.

In fact, most of the men's responses made me feel really good about myself because they were noting that they like women aren't overly skinny. And hearing guys say that skinny chicks need a sammich is always refreshing.

It was better than I expected and that's why it took me until now to pipe up. Regardless, my point isn't so much about something being overtly offensive; it is about the overall message a thread like this sends. In the end, judging a woman as "too skinny" is still judging her on her appearance, after all.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

This thread strikes me as Exhibit A in "why D&D has trouble reaching female gamers." If it isn't the art, it is the male gamers.

you may be right. I don't think we should be demeaning to women or judging them. However, I dont think that putting women in sexually reviling clothing is demeaning though (didn't say you did). Some women like to embrace their sexual power over men, some don't and find it repulsing. when it comes to art, someone will always be offending if its of a subjective nature.

If you think about the golden rule, i don't think men showing wemon as sexual icons is wrong, so long as it doesn't demean them. Men would love to be looked at as sexual icons so its a case of treating someone else as they wish to be treated. I could be wrong.

I wont feel ashamed for having a love of drawing attractive lady's or liking art of attractive lady's in turn.

again I'm not addressing you directly IanB, I'm just stating my views of the addressed topic and ranting a bit.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

This thread strikes me as Exhibit A in "why D&D has trouble reaching female gamers." If it isn't the art, it is the male gamers.

I understand we're not supposed to be raining on the parade, per the moderator edit at the beginning of the thread, but really a line is crossed at some point when we start using terms like "broads" - and I'm more than a little bummed that a moderator is participating wholesale.

Come on! It was in jest. All in good fun. Other than that one pun, I can't remember any discrimination against the fairer sex. As long as no women complain about our tone, it should be okay, shouldn't it? None have so far, so I think we're in the clear.

Plus, I'd say that if one of the girls were to open a counterthreat where they discuss D&D artwork of male characters, we wouldn't be offended, either. In fact, there was a counter-thread like that, where the man-appreciators discussed man-meat, and the thread wasn't overrun by militant masculists.

 

[Anti-Sean]

Might I remind the viewing audience of the MAXIM NWN ad ? Now THAT got my attention.

Is it just me, or is using a crab shell as part of a bikini bottom a lousey idea?

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

Is it just me, or is using a crab shell as part of a bikini bottom a lousey idea?

No, but using a crab would definately cross the line...

 

[Anti-Sean]

No, but using a crab would definately cross the line...

Oh clam up, Fickle.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

It was better than I expected

I wouldn't expect anything worse here: As soon as it crossed the line, someone would complain, and the moderators would descent upon the offenders like the avenging angels upon Sodom.

and that's why it took me until now to pipe up. Regardless, my point isn't so much about something being overtly offensive; it is about the overall message a thread like this sends. In the end, judging a woman as "too skinny" is still judging her on her appearance, after all.

It's hard to judge anything except appearance if all you have is a picture.

And there's nothing wrong with judging someone's appearance. It's not all there is, but it does count for something, especially for pure attractiveness. As long as we don't call someone a bad person based solely on his/her appearance, it should be alright.

I don't think anyone has called her a bad person because she's skinny.

Is it just me, or is using a crab shell as part of a bikini bottom a lousey idea?

Definetly not just you! This has got to be unconfortable, and IMO, it doesn't look good. In fact, it looks disturbing. Like an alien or something.

What's with the see shells, anyway? Nymphs aren't exactly known to be watery creatures. If I had to guess, they'd have something made out of leaves, bark, lichen, and the like (if only for propriety's sake, as I'd say that your average nymph often walks around naked, not having any truck with civilisation and "civilised" things like clothing)

 

[Kae'Yoss]

No, but using a crab would definately cross the line...

Should be effective in discouraging groping, though. You just have to properly charm/train the crab (having access to druid magic, this should not be a problem for a nymph)