Who said the Jedi were celibate? Or even chaste?

[Agback]

G'day

I always had the impression that Jedi knights cusomarily marry, or at least engage in amours. But now that I think about it, that is simply based on Luke's reaction to learning that his father was a Jedi knight, and his subsequent ambition to follow in his father's footsteps. He didn't seem to react like a guy who had been told that his father was a Roman Catholic priest or a Buddhist monk.

But in another thread quite a few people seem to presume that Jedi are required or expected to be celibate, and even chaste. Why?

Is there something in Attack of the Clones (a movie I will watch only when it is broadcast free-to-air) that suggests or implies that Jedi are required or expected not to marry or not to bonk?

Regards,


Agback

 

[Lily Inverse]

. . . . I'd suggest either downloading the preview trailers, or borrowing the movie novelization from the library (A pretty faithful adaption of the movie, actually) to find out tihs one on your own.

 

[LostSoul]

I watched Attack of the Clones and I didn't think there was anything that said Jedi should be chaste.

Oh, no wait, maybe there was...

I guess I thought it wasn't a Dark/Lightside issue. Just a tradition the Jedi Council clung to.

 

[Corinth]

This was a big part of the romance subplot: Jedi cannot love for attachment is forbidden, and love is most definately attachment. Uncle George later said that Jedi are allowed to get laid, but not to love anyone.

 

[DSC-EricPrice]

I suppose a lack of sex for 850 years COULD explain why Yoda is short, hairy, green, and wrinkly... hmmm

 

[LostSoul]

This was a big part of the romance subplot: Jedi cannot love for attachment is forbidden, and love is most definately attachment. Uncle George later said that Jedi are allowed to get laid, but not to love anyone.

He said that? What is he thinking? I guess his divorce really hit him hard. I don't believe Uncle George's vision of Jedi or the Force makes much sense these days.

Can anybody point out a link or something that describes what his vision of the Force is?

 

[Psion]

As empty as it sounds to discard the opinion of the author of the source material, I think George's take is a little whacked...

My personal theory (IE, the one I would use if I ever ran SW) is that the Jedi principle of detachment bred a lack of empathy among the jedi, which in turn caused many of them to turn to the dark side. This is why the force is said to be out of balance in the new republic era.

Darth vader "brings balance" to the force by destroying a jedi order that breeds dispassionate jedi that easily fall to the darkside. The new jedi order that is eventually created does not share these principles. (Note that Luke and Leia both have spouses in EU.)

 

[Prince Atom]

I never thought emotion was verboten. I just thought using the Force while experiencing fear or anger was bad.

In fact, the only place I have seen anything mentioning control of emotions in situations other than the use of the Force has been in the source (read: spin-off) materials.

Yoda counseled Luke against fear, hatred, anger, and impatience. He never said that Luke oughtn't to love his friends. He knew that Luke's running off to Bespin was a very dumb move, and Luke discovered that it was, to his regret. But Yoda never said Luke should just up and let them go.

As it turns out, Leia and Chewie got away by themselves, and were able to go after Han. It was Luke's impatience that got him into trouble, not his love for his friends.

So no, I don't think Jedi are not supposed to feel emotion. If I wanted repressed emotions, I'd go watch STAR TREK and laugh at Mr Spock's ears falling off.

TWK

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(I'm sorry, but I'm eating this hueueueueuege chocolate chip cookie, and it's sooooo good....)

 

[Tsyr]

Well, I suppose too it depends on the time period... rules seem to have changed in the New Republic era... Leia and Luke are both married, for example. Granted, this is in the Zhan novels (primarily, though there are others), but...

 

[hong]

He said that? What is he thinking? I guess his divorce really hit him hard. I don't believe Uncle George's vision of Jedi or the Force makes much sense these days.

Can anybody point out a link or something that describes what his vision of the Force is?

Jedi have to love _everybody_; that's what compassion is about. They shouldn't feel _desire_, because desire is the cause of suffering. Remember that the Force is grounded in eastern spiritualism and philosophy more so than western religion.