Why all the fiendish love?

[Nifft]

I find it dumb to create a heroic fantasy game with angst race PCs.

I'm not a Drizzt fan either, but I can see that there's no shortage of folks who would disagree with you. I'd guess they're slightly younger than you, too.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Cunningly hidden under those enticing black panties.

Though, as Nifft pointed out, it might not be canon... but with all the allusions of anime influence in 4E, whose to say a little hentai isn't soon to follow.

So you're objecting to what you project into a picture that doesn't actually depict what you're objecting to, based on the criticisms of knee-jerk anti-4E folks based on a design element that has not yet actually turned out to be present in 4E at all?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm not a Drizzt fan either, but I can see that there's no shortage of folks who would disagree with you. I'd guess they're slightly younger than you, too.

Drizzt turns 20 next year. I'm not sure how young his fans are supposed to be.

 

[RPG_Tweaker]

So you're objecting to what you project into a picture that doesn't actually depict what you're objecting to, based on the criticisms of knee-jerk anti-4E folks based on a design element that has not yet actually turned out to be present in 4E at all?

stop... I can't breathe...

 

[Nifft]

Drizzt turns 20 next year. I'm not sure how young his fans are supposed to be.

His current fans are always the same age: "get off my lawn".

Cheers, -- N

 

[mhacdebhandia]

Nope. I don't like half-Orcs either for the same reason.

I find it dumb to create a heroic fantasy game with angst race PCs. The only other reason to have them is to give players some unusual racial powers (such as flight or resistance to fire or some other strange atypical ability).

Just personal preference. "In poor taste" from my POV.

But . . . that's not what "in poor taste" means.

You're just saying you don't like it. That's "not to my taste", not "in poor taste".

Ok, show me in a previous PHB where a half- "evil outsider" race was a PC choice.

You're shifting the goalposts. You originally said only that "fiendish PC races" was "not D&D"; Planescape, which included tieflings as a common PC race, will be 14 years old by the time Fourth Edition comes out.

Maybe you don't think Planescape was D&D, either, but that just makes you a sad individual.

 

[Clavis]

Eeeeee... sorry, the artist may've drawn them with alluring lacey goth-gear, but images of vagina dentata make me say... "no thanks."

Funny, I was more concerned by their hellish silicone....

 

[Scribble]

I also think it's worth pointing out that Merlin, as far back as Geoffrey of Monmouth, was half-demon - begotten on a king's daughter by an incubus. Sure, he doesn't have horns or wings, but his magical powers stem from his demonic heritage.

This seems especially true when you once again look at what they've been saying about characters being points of light in the darkness, and born heroes...

Indicating to me that there aren't going to be towns full of tieflings running around everywhere... If you're a player and you're a tiefling, you're something special... Maybe something that others find a creepy sort of special... (and might try to kill you because of it...) but you're still something special.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I find it amusing, in a sad sort of way, that some people--not necessarily speaking of the OP here, for the record--insist on trying to find an agenda behind this sort of thing.

Maybe, just maybe, it's because the designers think that fiendish aspects make for a good game, or provide interesting plot hooks, or are fun characters. Or maybe it's because market research suggests that lots of players feel that way.

I think trying to look for any other motivation is, to call a spade a spade, silly.

Psst...

Spoiler

Excellent job covering up the plot to unleash the power of our dark overlord with the release of the new edition. The incantations cleverly hidden in the "simplified" rules system will surely bring an age of darkness on this world.
Klaatu barada nikto!

*cough* I politely disagree with you, good sir.

 

[KarinsDad]

But . . . that's not what "in poor taste" means.

You're just saying you don't like it. That's "not to my taste", not "in poor taste".

As a heroic PC race, it's tacky, crass, lowlife, "in poor taste". I find monster PC races to be non-appropriate for PCs. It's fine as a monster race.

Evil PC races in a "points of light" setting seems lame and trashy to me and forces that repetitive concept of "angst racial hero going against typecasting". Yawn.

I said what I meant, you just do not agree.