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I bought the book immediately when I came across this thread this morning. After flipping through it while sitting in a nearby coffee shop, I must say it was worth every cent. I can't wait to use the urban and NPC tables for both my Pathfinder and 4e campaigns. Hell, I'll even use it for the occassional Shadowrun games I hold. Thanks, Jim. You've helped this full-time employee take a lot of time off his hands.
 

can you guys tell me the difference between the first and the second books? is it an additional book? is it the first book plus more of the same? is it the first book plus new stuff not covered by the original? or is it an entirely new book with all new charts and tables to replace the ones from the first book?

thx
 

can you guys tell me the difference between the first and the second books? is it an additional book? is it the first book plus more of the same? is it the first book plus new stuff not covered by the original? or is it an entirely new book with all new charts and tables to replace the ones from the first book?

thx

this has got to be the most single-asked question about the book (even more than the PDF thing)

maybe someone can help me out here… what are we doing wrong with the marketing that this hasn't been addressed?

for the record, this questions has been answered a couple times on this thread, on paizo, and on the other thread on ENWorld with all the free charts and contests.

and to answer your question, the overlap is something like 1-2% (in a book with over 1,000 charts, that's maybe 20 reprinted charts from toolbox). the old charts from TOOLBOX that we knew people had to have if they ONLY bought this book were transplanted, but otherwise this is all new material. the big improvement, was taking the pick pocket charts and making them actual items someone might have in their pocket instead of just a reprinting of the equipment list from the PHB.

seriously, it's one of my favorite parts of the book. we should run a contest about that.

:)
 

I must say it was worth every cent. I can't wait to use the urban and NPC tables for both my Pathfinder and 4e campaigns. Hell, I'll even use it for the occassional Shadowrun games I hold.

It's quotes like this that help confirm our idea to go systemless was the right one. We're glad you are enjoying it!

-DM Jeff
 


this has got to be the most single-asked question about the book (even more than the PDF thing)

maybe someone can help me out here… what are we doing wrong with the marketing that this hasn't been addressed?

for the record, this questions has been answered a couple times on this thread, on paizo, and on the other thread on ENWorld with all the free charts and contests.

and to answer your question, the overlap is something like 1-2% (in a book with over 1,000 charts, that's maybe 20 reprinted charts from toolbox). the old charts from TOOLBOX that we knew people had to have if they ONLY bought this book were transplanted, but otherwise this is all new material. the big improvement, was taking the pick pocket charts and making them actual items someone might have in their pocket instead of just a reprinting of the equipment list from the PHB.

seriously, it's one of my favorite parts of the book. we should run a contest about that.

:)


I guess my reason for the post is that I don't want to have to get a different book just to get 20 "different" inn and tavern names. So when you say there are only maybe 20 reprinted charts and the rest are new, do you mean each chart has new contents but the chart has the same title as in the original book, and we are just getting 20 different inn names? Or are there all new charts in there with different titles never before seen in the other book? One answer makes this book a volume 2, with all new stuff, and the other answer makes it essentially a reprint of the same book but essentially giving a roll of 1-40 on each chart, as opposed to a 1-20, due to the new list contents.

See what I mean?
 

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