Why Did No One Tell me? Ultimate Toolbox!

[DM_Jeff]

*jumps into screenshot*

"I'll field this 'un!"

I guess my reason for the post is that I don't want to have to get a different book just to get 20 "different" inn and tavern names. So when you say there are only maybe 20 reprinted charts and the rest are new, do you mean each chart has new contents but the chart has the same title as in the original book, and we are just getting 20 different inn names? ?

It means in Toolbox 1 we did tavern names. In UT we have lots more tavern names, a small few of which are taken frokm Toolbox 1. The rest are new. So yes, there are a few taven name charts from Toolbox 1 and many new ones including NEW details never printed anywhere ever before in Ultimate Toolbox. In Toolbox 1 you could make a good tavern. In Ultimate Toolbox you can make an ultra-detailed amazing tavern.

Or are there all new charts in there with different titles never before seen in the other book?

Yes, there are all new charts in there with different titles never before seen in the other book. In fact, that's 97% of Ultimate Toolbox. NEW!

One answer makes this book a volume 2, with all new stuff, and the other answer makes it essentially a reprint of the same book but essentially giving a roll of 1-40 on each chart, as opposed to a 1-20, due to the new list contents.

I see what you mean. It is not a reprint. It is an add-on. But for the folks who missed original Toolbox (and because jim and I liked the charts so much) a small few made it into Ultimate Toolbox to help round it out. It's volume 2. It's so, so much bigger. It so much better. AEG let us bust our seams and just let us kept writing long after the original page count was done. We STUFFED it full. Thankf for asking Joe!

-DM Jeff

 

[jim pinto]

joe, and anyone else, i highly recommend downloading the free INDEX from the alderac.com website.

it really is all the answers you are looking for.

there are four chapters in book 1.

wilderness
dungeon
cities
character

192 pages… 1/2 of which is relevant five years later

about 40 themes are tackled, with some charts on encounters and villages names

there are seven chapters in book 2 (plus an appendix)

character (not a lot of overlap, this time character "class" specific information and motivations)
world (all new subject)
civilization (100 pages on how to build a fantasy city, pretty much making the first book's chapter of cities a chihuahua to its pit bull like awesomeness)
maritime (pirates and high seas)
dungeons (even better than before, although the first one is really good)
magic (all new subject)
plot (all new subject)
appendix

400 pages covering themes as diverse as druids, undead, pirate flags, stone markings, villain agendas and weaknesses… the list goes on.

hope that helps

 

[joethelawyer]

thanks very much guys for the responses. it really sounds like there is no need to get the first if i am going to get the second, right? since the second covers everything the first covered but more?

 

[DM_Jeff]

thanks very much guys for the responses. it really sounds like there is no need to get the first if i am going to get the second, right? since the second covers everything the first covered but more?

Heh heh. This is mostly true, but if you want to see the 97% of origonal Tookbox we DIDN'T reproduce in Ultimate Toolbox, send me an email, Joe, reminding me of entry 10 on table 5-4 of UT and I'll send you a copy of original Toolbox.

-DM Jeff (ocasek 50 at hotmail dot com)

 

[joethelawyer]

Heh heh. This is mostly true, but if you want to see the 97% of origonal Tookbox we DIDN'T reproduce in Ultimate Toolbox, send me an email, Joe, reminding me of entry 10 on table 5-4 of UT and I'll send you a copy of original Toolbox.

-DM Jeff (ocasek 50 at hotmail dot com)

Free stuff? **Checks date---nope, not April 1st--

DEAL!

 

[jim pinto]

thanks very much guys for the responses. it really sounds like there is no need to get the first if i am going to get the second, right? since the second covers everything the first covered but more?

While the second book is vastly better, you may find that some of the material in the original (that was not reproduced — streams, terrain, flora/fauna, dungeon dressings, etc) might suit your gaming needs.

EDIT: Should have read the entire thread, first. Looks around awkwardly.

 

[Quickleaf]

What no competitors for the contest? Goblin stew drive them off?

 

[Scribble]

What no competitors for the contest? Goblin stew drive them off?

I was totally ready to enter the contest. Like I started rolling dice and everything... But then when I went to check the charts I realized I couldn't because I DON'T HAVE A PDF COPY YET!

 

[jim pinto]

I was totally ready to enter the contest. Like I started rolling dice and everything... But then when I went to check the charts I realized I couldn't because I DON'T HAVE A PDF COPY YET!

it'll take more than that excuse to explain why you didn't beat goblin stew, sir



you still have (according to my clock), 10 hours to get a chart together.

i may not announce a winner until tomorrow, should someone, somehow, come in with a chart that competes… but otherwise, quicklkleaf is in the lead… barely

can i enter the contest? and let you guys judge?

 

[DM_Jeff]

can i enter the contest? and let you guys judge?

While I would delight in what offering you may have in store...what would be your motivation? You already have the $250+ worth of stuff you're giving out. Perhaps just making a UT point. OK, bring it on!

-DM Jeff