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Why do intelligence bonuses from magical items effect skills the way they do?

I use the rules as posted from the SRD above, and there's no headache involved at all. Enhancement bonuses don't give skill points, so they can't possibly give retroactive skill points. Since they don't give extra skill points, there's nothing to lose if you remove the headband. It's the simplest possible ruling (wether or not you like it is another story).

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I personaly grant them the bonus, had no problem up to now. Otherwise I don't see why a headband of intellect should cost as much as glove of Dex, unless glove of dex don't provide bonus to AC.
 


Craziness?!?!?!

It's because you have to allocate skill points to certain skills, and hitpoints just go into your total. Here's an example - you are a 12th level wizard and make it to 13th. You're lucky enough to have a headband of intellect +6. You gain 3 extra skill points, which you decide to dump into craft: basketweaving, giving you 3 ranks. Later on in the campaign, you realize craft: basketweaving is crap, so you take off the headband, lose the 3 skillpoints, and thus the 3 ranks... then put it back on, regaining the 3 skill points, and putting them in search.

And that's only for the last level. Actually, when you take off the headband at 13th level, you lose 48 skills points (don't forget the bonus at first level).... where did you put those specific 48 skillpoints? Do you remember? Well, now you need to go back and update all those skills... now you put it back on... boom, 48 new skillpoints. You could max out 3 different class skills that way, every single time you take off the headband. Need search, spot and listen today? Ok. After lunch do you need some knowledge: arcana? No problem.

And how *do* you determine class skills? What if you were a fighter 6/wizard 7? When you get those 48 skillpoints, are all wizard skills class skills, or do you need to go back and figure out which levels you took when....

No... it's definitely way better just to not have intelligence be retroactive, and not allow intelligence items to grant skillpoints. Otherwise, it's nearly impossible to keep track of your skills, even with a complicated spreadsheet.

-The Souljourner

Why did ya'll even allow that hogwash?

Here is what some of my Comrades did. When You Lose a level, you lose HP's, skills and ability scores related to that lost level, but your mind still has affinity for the things you lost. When a restoration occurs, you get everything back as it was. So in the DND version where the magic item allowed retro, taking it off and putting it back on would not reset a darn thing. You'd need to leave it off a whole level progression(lets say gain level and then 1 more fully) before your skills would reset. Keeps pc's from tweaking and being just inane tarts.

Pearls of wisdom have to be worn...how long before they impart the Wisdom +1? Right a long freaking time. Same benefits should occur with any other item, as it slowly opens you mind to the deeper thinking... But to remove such benefit... it weans over time... a level drain is a undead stealing part of your soul.... but you heal it back and get your old character sheet back with restore or gaining the level back the hard way. But taking a item off and trying the canadian border hop.. i'm in i'm out... etc just doesnt fly.

Now the newer games don't give skills with Magic items, Hp gains are bonus hp... that when you lose the item with damage... you can kill yourself it low hp when it's removed. -1 and someone takes your Con +2 item off and you were 10th level,. oops. They arent Temps.. they are hard pool and come off the bottom, not top.

Gaining a permanent stat should give you the benefits retroactively. Your brain has opened to a new level of life. Let's say you are a Half-Orc with 6 INT, and you're getting 1-2 skills per level if you are lucky, based on class... And by whatever means you get your real stat INT to 12... you gain skills from the accomplishment... slowly over time you start to remember more details, spell better, read better,,.. comprehension takes in and damn... you become a pretty smart Half-Orc.

Retroactive has it's place an reasoning.... losing a level shouldnt change a damn thing on skills... you hold the character sheet and when they get the level back.. they get their same sheet back. no skills changed.
 



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