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D&D 5E Why doesn't D&D have its own Showcase video like MtG does?

Parmandur

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We first heard about the 3 Classic settings last year at D&D Celebration 2020, by June 14th 2021 Ravenloft was already released and we got the following tweet where we found out the manuscript for 1 of the setting lead by Chris Perkins was complete, while another was ramping up.

3 other settings were in early development, 1 revisit, 2 new settings none from MtG and still in the danger zone, but going well. That suggests A) The first Classic setting is very likely going to be very early 2022 as it's already had 3 months already after finishing the manuscript for art and editing, ect... B) That it's going to take longer then 12 to 13 months of development C) the 3 projects might have had enough time to either fail or get out of the danger zone too, I mean the 2 Classic settings were safe by 8 months, it's only been abit over 3 months for the other 3, but it might be enough perhaps.

WinningerR

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@Wizards_DnD

Settings Update: As I've mentioned on a couple of occasions, there are two more products that revive "classic" settings in production right now. (1/4)

1:33 PM · Jun 14, 2021·Twitter Web App

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The manuscript for the first, overseen by

@ChrisPerkinsDnD

, is nearly complete. Work on the second, led by

@FWesSchneider

with an assist from

@AriLevitch

, is just ramping up in earnest. Both are targeting 2022 and formats you've never seen before. (2/4)"
Whatever Perkins is working on is probably the Winter book in March, so that is probably pretty close to being finalized: still might not hear about until January, so they can focus marketing on the current upcoming books. The second returning Setting might be the next book after that.
 

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Whatever Perkins is working on is probably the Winter book in March, so that is probably pretty close to being finalized: still might not hear about until January, so they can focus marketing on the current upcoming books. The second returning Setting might be the next book after that.

I'm thinking it could be out earlier then March, maybe January or February for Perkins setting book. And Ravenloft didn't stop them from hyping Witchlight and Strixhaven relatively close to its release.
 

I mean, hard to say. They felt confident in rolling out their October/November books this year in mid-June, which is less than 6 months. I wonder if they were in a situation where they felt that either Fizban's or Strixhaven might not make it all the way but both turned out well so they adjusted.

no, I'm pretty sure Fizban's, Witchlight, and Strixhaven were locks by the time if the Week of Legend.

At the very least I expect we will get some kind of update on what kind of products we can expect for next year and how the Classic/New/,Revisit settings are progressing, and if they added to that. Maybe news on if we can expect an MtG setting next year too, even if the Future of D&D Panel doesn't do announcements.
 

Parmandur

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no, I'm pretty sure Fizban's, Witchlight, and Strixhaven were locks by the time if the Week of Legend.

At the very least I expect we will get some kind of update on what kind of products we can expect for next year and how the Classic/New/,Revisit settings are progressing, and if they added to that. Maybe news on if we can expect an MtG setting next year too, even if the Future of D&D Panel doesn't do announcements.
I mean prior to that, like if in January they weren't certain which if either ook would make it to print, but both turned out well.
 

Parmandur

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Yhr overall point remains, D&D has a shorter development timeline and is more fluid and open to change up to a closer point than Magic products, so "here is the D&D 2022 lineup, guarenteed" is not feasible in the same way.
 


I mean fair point, but again that misses what I am talking about.

The MTG echo system of today, vs when Lorwyn released in 2007 is...dramatically different to say the least.

MTG today, is a self perpetuating money maker.

For now, a crash will come eventually not a year or so from now, but eventually.
 




Parmandur

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Usually the D&D live streams and D&D Celebration streams don't reveal the whole product line for the whole upcoming year, usually 1 or 2 books at most.
Right, because that's all that they have nailed down, and the marketing and wholesale environment for books is diffefrom collectible card games.

They probably don't know what's coming out in November 2022, so they can't announce it. Unlike Magic, which already has the cards together for their Q4 product.
 

Parmandur

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They've done a lot of that. The Stream of Many Eyes happenned every year (I think) before the pandemic hit.....
They still had D&D Live in 2020 and 2021, just more social distanced. That's where they announced Icewind Dale & Tasha's in 2020, and Witchlight, Fizban's & Strixhaven in 2021.
 

Bolares

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Right, because that's all that they have nailed down, and the marketing and wholesale environment for books is diffefrom collectible card games.

They probably don't know what's coming out in November 2022, so they can't announce it. Unlike Magic, which already has the cards together for their Q4 product.
Yeah. DnD books take a lot less time to make so the schedule will be a lot shorter too.
 

Yeah. DnD books take a lot less time to make so the schedule will be a lot shorter too.

I think it's long enough for at least biyearly announcements for what's coming over the next 6 months.

Anyways given the Domains of Delight are supposed to get a dmsguild guide, I'm not as certain it's one of the new settings, intact it seems more like it was originally intended to be a new setting book, but they converted it into an adventure, but didn't want the how to make your own Domain of Delight chapter that the book didn't need now to go to waste, so they turned it into a PDF. I think as far as AL will be concerned the Domains of Delight will count as a part of the Forgotten Realms, even though it has more in common with Ravenloft.
 

Parmandur

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I think it's long enough for at least biyearly announcements for what's coming over the next 6 months.

Anyways given the Domains of Delight are supposed to get a dmsguild guide, I'm not as certain it's one of the new settings, intact it seems more like it was originally intended to be a new setting book, but they converted it into an adventure, but didn't want the how to make your own Domain of Delight chapter that the book didn't need now to go to waste, so they turned it into a PDF. I think as far as AL will be concerned the Domains of Delight will count as a part of the Forgotten Realms, even though it has more in common with Ravenloft.
DO keep in mind that WotC is not afraid to do new things, even if we can find precedents. Here's a hypothesis: in the course of making this adventure, which has apparently been ruminating in his head since 4E, Perkins found that he had the germ of maybe a whole new Setting here, comparable to Ravenloft. Maybe the DOmains oif Dread DMsGuild product, whatever that looks like, is to a potential future project what the DMsGuild Eberron product was to the eventual Eberron Setting book: a proof of concept and playtest. IF this Adventure is received well, and the DMsGuild product gets good feedback, then maybe they will proceed with a whole new Setting, which is what Winninger was hinting at.
 

Urriak Uruk

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Yhr overall point remains, D&D has a shorter development timeline and is more fluid and open to change up to a closer point than Magic products, so "here is the D&D 2022 lineup, guarenteed" is not feasible in the same way.

This is pretty much the answer right here. D&D Live is the closest thing it will get to a showcase, as I believe they only decide on the definitive releases about 9 months in advance.

It's pretty clear that the D&D team does have a lot of pre-plans in reserve, as apparently Witchlight was first being planned way back during Xanathar's development. But as explained in the blog posts, they always have several book concepts competing for release slots. So they only decide what is moving fully into production at a pretty late stage.
 

Parmandur

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This is pretty much the answer right here. D&D Live is the closest thing it will get to a showcase, as I believe they only decide on the definitive releases about 9 months in advance.

It's pretty clear that the D&D team does have a lot of pre-plans in reserve, as apparently Witchlight was first being planned way back during Xanathar's development. But as explained in the blog posts, they always have several book concepts competing for release slots. So they only decide what is moving fully into production at a pretty late stage.
Same with Icewind Dale, reading and listening to interviews it seems that it was scrapped at some point and then revived when they had a new approach, so some parts were written years previously.
 

Bolares

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It's also worth pointing that the MTG announcement video, is a new thing. They've announced schedule before of course, but in this particular format, it's a pretty new thing.
 

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