Why I love gamers

[Asmor]

Don't you mean Searing Light?

Actually, I meant scorching ray, but it was early and I shouldn't have been typing. But I like yours better anyways. Searing Light it is!

 

[Umbran]

I get made fun of a lot for this and I think that its sad. I like to believe that fantasy has a set of rules that are defined within whatever story you choose (for instance in Superman the rules say that Clark Kent can fly). If weird things happen that are covered in these premises, fine. This, however, does not excuse sloppy continuity.

In general, I agree with your premise. But note that the particular case here, though, is one in which Supes has been known for catching falling people for decades - the defined rules were not explicitly stated, but are well-established by continuity.

The problem (if you want to call it that) is that fans are not consistently selective about which holes are argued about, and which are not.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

In general, I agree with your premise. But note that the particular case here, though, is one in which Supes has been known for catching falling people for decades - the defined rules were not explicitly stated, but are well-established by continuity.

The problem (if you want to call it that) is that fans are not consistently selective about which holes are argued about, and which are not.

Maybe they were marvel comics fans.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I have a fantasy group attacked by sharks. I have the sharks fly (for no particular reason), and come at them out of the sun. There are 22 of them.

Player: "Sharks don't come in schools that big!"

Never mind the "flying out of the sun" part.

Of course. There's fantasy, and there's unlogical things!

(Except that it was wrong, there's some sharks who have schools of more than 100 - but none of the flying sunsharks are among them, I give you that).

Plus, it's the exact same thing I'd have said. Not because I'd know about shark school sizes, but it's the least likely thing to call unrealistic. What's the fun in calling flying sharks unrealistic?

 

[Asmor]

Maybe they were marvel comics fans.

Careful, you don't wanna run afoul of the no-politics rule!

 

[Mistwell]

Careful, you don't wanna run afoul of the no-politics rule!

It's not like he said Macs are better than PCs or something!

 

[Darkwolf71]

Man goes in the cage. Cage goes in the water. Shark's in the water.

Boys, oh boys... I think he's come back for his noon feeding.

 

[VirgilCaine]

I agree entirely. The fact that a fantasy, sci fi or superhero story may add something outside of the standard reality, does not, imo automaticly make everything up for grabs and any illogic acceptable. The best departure from reality in fiction are modular.

Thank you!

I don't see the objection to 22 sharks stupid at all, people don't think of sharks as social animals, but lone predators.

 

[roguerouge]

In general, I agree with your premise. But note that the particular case here, though, is one in which Supes has been known for catching falling people for decades - the defined rules were not explicitly stated, but are well-established by continuity.

The problem (if you want to call it that) is that fans are not consistently selective about which holes are argued about, and which are not.

Sorry, even though I don't read comics, I have to be that guy.

Even I know that Superman's catches have been physics-breaking for decades... as have comic writers! See: death of Gwen Stacy, Spiderman's first girlfriend. See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Stacy#The_Death_of_Gwen_Stacy

Fans are reacting to lazy and bad writing when they react in this manner. Non-fans remarking on Superman flying are revealing their lack of knowledge about the genre itself, equivalent to remarking about the marksmanship in Spaghetti Western gun fights or how a chair to the head would break your skull.

And yet, it's those who can make fine judgments that are open to ridicule...

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Sorry, even though I don't read comics, I have to be that guy.

Even I know that Superman's catches have been physics-breaking for decades... as have comic writers! See: death of Gwen Stacy, Spiderman's first girlfriend. See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Stacy#The_Death_of_Gwen_Stacy

I also recall an issue of Cloak and Dagger (would have been in the 80s or early 90s, don't recall details) in which Dagger had been falling to her death and Cloak rescued her by bringing her into the dimension he served as an interface for. Problem being, she still had all her momentum and he couldn't just drop her out. So, iirc, he brought in relitively small amounts of water for her to smack into over and over until enough of her momentum had been bled off for him to let her out onto something soft. It stuck in my mind because it was a situation where superpowers alone were only part of the solution, some thought and a fair amount of physical punishment were still needed after the dramatic rescue part.

(the original shark story is very funny in its way, don't get me wrong.)