Why Is Chris Perkins Tweeting Page Snippets Of Mongrelfolk?

I didn't see that either. Do mongrelfolk appear in one of the adventures they've released, or is this a possible hint of the Monster Manual 2?

 

[Jack Abrasion]

2. It looks like a 5e PC race write up to me

It's definitely a monster write up, this is not PC race format

 

[Quickleaf]

One year would be faster than 3rd edition, but slower than 4th (or 2nd edition).

2nd Edition:
- Monstrous Compendium Volume One (June 1989)
- Monstrous Compendium Volume Two (August 1989)
- Monstrous Compendium Volume Three (November 1989)
- Monstrous Compendium Volume Four (April 1990)

3rd Edition:
- Monster Manual (October 2000)
- Monster Manual II (September 2002)

4th Edition:
- Monster Manual (June 2008)
- Monster Manual 2 (May 2009)

Ack! You're right! My mistake.

Well, this gives me hope that it may in fact be from a proof copy for the MM2 then.

 

[variant]

This is probably just some monster in one of their upcoming adventure path books.

 

[Sword of Spirit]

I mean, if they can do a ret-con of Temple of Elemental Evil in the Forgotten Realms, then I agree that it wouldn't hard to fit a Ravenloft/Ravenloft-ensue adventure into the Forgotten Realms too.

As for the MM2, while I'm eager to see that, having a proof copy already done seems WAY faster than their previous production of the MM2 historically. Even during 3e and 4e with their faster production cycles, wasn't it 2 years since the launch of the core three before they released MM2? If they have a proof copy of MM2 now, wouldn't that mean they were gunning for like a September / October release, roughly 1 year after the first MM was released? That would be FAST. And awesome

One of the design team said something to the effect that they had enough material left on the cutting floor after MM1 to form a good foundation for MM2. That picture could actually be something they already wrote up and had to be cut from the MM1.

(My gut tells me we probably only got about 60-65% of the monsters they had actually worked on for inclusion in the MM, and most of those other 35-40% of the monsters are either done or almost done, just waiting around on WotC hard drives...lurking...waiting...watching for an opportunity...)

 

[Quickleaf]

One of the design team said something to the effect that they had enough material left on the cutting floor after MM1 to form a good foundation for MM2. That picture could actually be something they already wrote up and had to be cut from the MM1.

Wow, that is especially impressive because didn't they add like 30+ pages to the MM? And even after doing that, they still had a bunch of monsters left over that formed a good foundation for MM2.

I'm very much looking forward to the MM2, whenever it does get released. At least we know one monster which will (probably) be going in: Mongrelfolk.

 

[the Jester]

I just want to say that I'd buy the MM2 today if it was available.

I am a whore for monsters.

 

[Lancelot]

I don't really need a PH2. I never want to see another DMG2. I'm generally averse to splatbooks. I think the current pace of released adventures is fine. I'm actually quite happy with the relatively light flow of new printed materials from WotC.

But I need more monsters. Especially the non-standard stuff. Give me some Planescape monsters... Ravenloft monsters... Mystara monsters.

That's all I need. Everything else can be hand-waved, or re-used from previous editions. I don't need a new Ravenloft splatbook to tell me about Barovia, or how to roll fear checks, or to include a tarokka deck. I already have all those things. What I need is monsters.

So, if this is MM2, let it be soon. My wallet is ready.

 

[MerricB]

3rd Edition:
- Monster Manual (October 2000)
- Monster Manual II (September 2002)

Well, we did have a small product in-between...
- Monster Manual (October 2000)
- Monsters of Faerun (February 2001) (smaller book)
- Monster Manual II (September 2002)
- Fiend Folio (April 2003) (just before 3.5E, with hybrid stats).

Cheers!

 

[Echohawk]

Well, we did have a small product in-between...
- Monsters of Faerun (February 2001) (smaller book)

Good point -- that definitely counts. Monsters of Faerûn was deliberately printed without a Forgotten Realms logo on the front so that it could be sold as a general monster book.

So a 5e Monster Manual II in September 2015 would still be the slowest release time for a second monster book for any edition since 1e.

 

[SpaceOtter]

If the Shakespeare connection stands true, this could be tied to something inspired by "The Tempest" with Mongrelfolk standing in for Caliban, the deformed son of the witch, Sycorax.

Now, the play is great fodder for an adventure, though personally I'd love a new MM including the honking big list of classic critters that weren't covered in the existing Monster Manual.

 

[SilentWolf]

It's definitely a monster format.

It can belong to an Adventure or to the next D&D 5e rulebook.
I believe that we should not think about the D&D 5e supplements (the one Mearls named "Campaign Handbooks") in the old-fashioned way. Considering what has been said by the designers until now, it is possible that future supplements will contain charachter options, new sub-systems, new monsters, new equipment, new Variants, new DM tools, new flavor and fluff.

 

[Kramodlog]

I wonder how mongrelfolk fit in Sword Coast Legends.

 

[Pauper]

I'm guessing it's a 5E Fiend Folio, as mongrelfolk were introduced in 3E in that edition's Fiend Folio.

And w/r/t Ravenloft, I think people are confusing mongrelfolk with calibans, the latter being the Ravenloft version of half-orcs. There were mongrelfolk in Markovia, but they didn't travel much, being convinced that the darklord was their deity.

 

[ehren37]

Really hoping its MM 2. The monsters in MM1 are kind of creampuff in general, and a step back from what we saw at the end of 4E in terms of design. The monster building guidelines in the DMG skew much deadlier, and there's a huge lack of creatures even in the CR 5+ range, let alone 10+.

 

[HonorBoundSamurai632]

Well, we did have a small product in-between...
- Monster Manual (October 2000)
- Monsters of Faerun (February 2001) (smaller book)
- Monster Manual II (September 2002)
- Fiend Folio (April 2003) (just before 3.5E, with hybrid stats).

Cheers!

I logged in just to remind everyone of the Fiend Folio. In 1st edition, the Fiend Folio came before the Monster Manual 2. Who knows .... maybe this could possibly be a Fiend Folio entry?

 

[ExploderWizard]

1. Mongrelmen (folk) have been around since 1e Dwellers of the Forbidden City

Man if this is a 5E conversion of Dwellers count me in!!!

 

[BrockBallingdark]

It's been awesome not having splat books lined up. A 5E Fiend Folio would be old school and awesome. I would be fine with a MM2 as they had more monsters left over. If there is enough to make a solid second MM, go for it! After a second MM book, they start getting very watered down and silly, I look at Pathfinder as a reminder.

 

[Agamon]

Smart money's on snipit from the next AP. It might be something from the next conversion document. Highly unlikely that its from a new monster book.

 

[Zaran]

View attachment 68141Perhaps for this?

 

[Grimstaff]

Monster Manual 2, GenCon 2015 first release, available in stores Sept. 8th.