Why is it so important?

[hong]

I would be ah. . . very surprised, to say the least, if someone could "prove" that Vancian magic *does* cause those things. Because my experiences IRL directly contradict that claim.

Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

Please demonstrate that they are not.

 

[hong]

Please demonstrate that they are not.

http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=3752743&postcount=212

Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

 

[Raven Crowking]

Tell me why I should care about the bald statement "I believe in X", shorn of any overall context of the discussion of X.

I didn't say that you should, any more than I said that his statement was correct.

I simply said that, given a statement of "There is no X", one cannot prove the statement by displaying anything (although one can disprove it in such a way).

 

[gizmo33]

I'd want to protect my horse from danger and summon him whenever I needed him and to sell any magic items I find on adventures and buy new ones.

Well, I'd want to be able to cast a 3,000 ft radius fireball at first level. I think the issue that addresses versimilitude in an FRPG is whether or not any given feature is consistent with the other features and the assumptions of the campaign world. In the end what I'm trying to do as a DM is give the illusion that my campaign world could exist in a possible reality.

 

[Aus_Snow]

http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=3752743&postcount=212

Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

Please demonstrate that they are not.

This time for real.

 

[hong]

I didn't say that you should, any more than I said that his statement was correct.

Isn't it fun, posting statements that are pointless in the context of an ongoing discussion?

However, that's MY schtick. Please do not STEAL MY SCHTICK.

I simply said that, given a statement of "There is no X", one cannot prove the statement by displaying anything (although one can disprove it in such a way).

In which case I would like to followup my statement that my left big toe hurts from where I stubbed it on the wall, with the statement that the wall is hurting a lot more. HAW HAW!

 

[hong]

Please demonstrate that they are not.

No, no. I asked you first. Please to stop beating around the bush.

This time for real.

Yes, yes. Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

 

[Aus_Snow]

No, no. I asked you first. Please to stop beating around the bush.

That is untrue. You didn't "ask first". Someone else (i.e., not you, and not me) made the initial claim. [Stop unnecessarily repeating yourself.]

It remains to be seen whether that claim will be supported.

Perhaps a poll?

Well, actually. . . maybe it's not that daft an idea.

Except it'd only get the regular online-forum-goers, plus a few others. Maybe not then. :\

Yes, yes. Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.

Yes, yes. Please demonstrate that they are not.

 

[hong]

That is untrue. You didn't "ask first". Someone else (i.e., not you, and not me) made the initial claim. [Stop unnecessarily repeating yourself.]

It remains to be seen whether that claim will be supported.

You mean like this?

http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=3752743&postcount=212

Perhaps a poll?

Well, actually. . . maybe it's not that daft an idea.

Except it'd only get the regular online-forum-goers, plus a few others. Maybe not then. :\

Asking for a statistically rigorous, scientifically valid demonstration of the zeitgeist in the context of a messageboard discussion is unrealistic at best, disingenuous at worst. Hence: you first.

Yes, yes. Please demonstrate that they are not.

Please demonstrate that your experiences IRL are reflective of the experiences of the majority.