Why No Lost?

[RangerWickett]

Faraday's spiel last week about how humans are 'variables' annoyed the hell out of me. It went wildly against what he had said previously about time being immutable, and unless I missed something, the change of outlook seemed inappropriate to his character.

Sawyer, Kate, and Juliet leaving confused me from a storytelling perspective. It sort of lowers the tension level for me. They've safely gotten away, and no one seems too upset about leaving the island, so that's a bizarrely happy note in the middle of what I expected to be the build-up to some sort of doomsday.

 

[stonegod]

Great stuff - the best at time travel I think I've ever seen. Lots of reveals in every episode, with new mysteries quickly replacing them.

I officially forgive the producers for season 3.

Negotiating a known "end-date" was the best thing the producers ever did for the show. B5 was great because it had a plan, and wandered when that plan was messed w/ (such as the signs of cancellation as Season 4).

 

[Mark]

Lots of surprises. Very good episode.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Faraday's spiel last week about how humans are 'variables' annoyed the hell out of me. It went wildly against what he had said previously about time being immutable, and unless I missed something, the change of outlook seemed inappropriate to his character.

My assumption (and it's only that) is that something happened to Faraday to make him think that he could change the future. However, via course correction that was perhaps not the case. I don't recall Faraday ever mentioning course correction - that was all Desmond/Charlie and events we've seen but Faraday hasn't. It's possible he doesn't know about it.

Sawyer, Kate, and Juliet leaving confused me from a storytelling perspective. It sort of lowers the tension level for me. They've safely gotten away, and no one seems too upset about leaving the island, so that's a bizarrely happy note in the middle of what I expected to be the build-up to some sort of doomsday.

First off, I should mention that I absolutely hate this forced triangle thing with them. I think putting Kate on the sub cheapened what should have been a scene that is reminiscent of the raft leaving the island (also a penultimate episode, IIRC). Sure, everyone else is in danger - but Sawyer and Juliet live happily ever after, or at least have the chance to.

Second, that assumes the sub actually leaves the island's "field". We know that it's not enough to get off the island, but to get far enough away from it. If it's supposed to be a callback to the raft, then it's likely they don't get off the island. It's the hope before the crushing despair.

Thirdly, and tangentially, that made me think of WALLLLT! and hence Herold Perrineau. I'm really enjoying The Unusuals. Random aside.

 

[dravot]

My assumption (and it's only that) is that something happened to Faraday to make him think that he could change the future. However, via course correction that was perhaps not the case. I don't recall Faraday ever mentioning course correction - that was all Desmond/Charlie and events we've seen but Faraday hasn't. It's possible he doesn't know about it.

Faraday was on the island believing that time was immutable. Then he went off to Dharma HQ in Ann Arbor for 3 years, and came back believing in variables.

First off, I should mention that I absolutely hate this forced triangle thing with them. I think putting Kate on the sub cheapened what should have been a scene that is reminiscent of the raft leaving the island (also a penultimate episode, IIRC). Sure, everyone else is in danger - but Sawyer and Juliet live happily ever after, or at least have the chance to.

The forced triangles aren't working for me. They seem forced for me too.

 

[Remus Lupin]

To quote Steve Buscemi from "Reservoir Dogs": "Great, now I'm f****** tormented."

 

[Jack7]

Did anybody catch what Richard said in Latin?

I don't hear very well but I thought, well, I just better be sure. Did anyone hear?

 

[RangerWickett]

This was a terrible episode, capping a mediocre season.

 

[Fast Learner]

Great episode, capping the best season in years, hooray!

I didn't catch what he said, no, but am curious.

 

[Jack7]

If it's what I think he said, and I'd like to see it written that would be interesting because the Ankh and the rest of the statue is missing, exposing only the right foot.

Meaning he's under the foot, but the shadow of the full statue would have been cast behind him (the statue figure) as the sun rose, I think, given the prior ship board sighting of the statue remains, from starboard I believe. I'm trying to remember the time of day the people on the boat saw the statue remains, which I believe had both legs showing at that time. If that is the case then that means the explosions didn't wipe out the statue, time is degenerating it. (Because it is running backwards in time?) And it would explain Jacob's weaving on the loom.

But if it wasn't what I thought he said then it has a double, or perhaps triple, meaning.

When I first saw the box I knew it was John's body.

Now I know why the kids in the van looked familiar when they scooped up Miles. And why the radiation burns (I'm pretty sure that's what it was) on Ilana.

2010. Dammit.
Dammit all.

Anywho, I really liked this finale.

Edit: then again if he lives under the statue and that fires burns all of the time then he is the one who sits in the shadow of the statue and it is he who will "shelter us all."

Ben kills John, and now apparently kills Jacob, so Ben cannot be the sacrificial man and had no choice because it was an intended sacrifice - By knife, and fire.

That means it's the old altar beneath the Ankh.