Fast Learner
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Apparently he said
, which would translate to
Ille qui nos omnes servabit
"He who will protect/save us all."
Why No Lost?
- Thread starter Atavar
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Still going with....
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Anubis & Osiris mythos
Island = Philae
Statue = Taueret
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Arnwyn
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Not half bad.
Proves to me, though, that the only episodes really worth watching are the premiers, finales, and recaps! (Especially with the two writers, who actually bother to tell you what's going on.) It also proves to me that Lost would have actually been a great series if it was only 4 (or even just 3) seasons long. It's extension out to 6 seasons really hurt the quality of the show.
So it's some kind of 'eternal struggle', is it? Hmmm... that's kind of interesting. I'm not sure what the show is trying to portray, though. It seemed to me that it was trying to make Jacob seem like a nice/good guy, and the other guy a kind of villain. But we know that's a load of crap, because if Jacob really is the leader of the Others then he is a despicable hateful person. So, I have to wonder what the show is trying to do... one bad guy and one worse guy? That's pretty bad writing, if that's how it'll turn out.
So needless to say, I cheered when Jacob got his. Ahhh... that was nice. I also cheered when Juliet went down the hole - that was nice, too (but then cried to see she wasn't dead and splattered). Oh well... can't win 'em all.
"Ricardus"... heh, that was cool. And nice to see they actually showed more of the statue and explained a (tiny) bit more. More info on the island is always good. Less character stuff for Lost (Kate is a complete twit, and has been for 3 seasons now) is also good. As others have mentioned - that whole triangle (now square?) thing isn't working for me.
Proves to me, though, that the only episodes really worth watching are the premiers, finales, and recaps! (Especially with the two writers, who actually bother to tell you what's going on.) It also proves to me that Lost would have actually been a great series if it was only 4 (or even just 3) seasons long. It's extension out to 6 seasons really hurt the quality of the show.
So it's some kind of 'eternal struggle', is it? Hmmm... that's kind of interesting. I'm not sure what the show is trying to portray, though. It seemed to me that it was trying to make Jacob seem like a nice/good guy, and the other guy a kind of villain. But we know that's a load of crap, because if Jacob really is the leader of the Others then he is a despicable hateful person. So, I have to wonder what the show is trying to do... one bad guy and one worse guy? That's pretty bad writing, if that's how it'll turn out.
So needless to say, I cheered when Jacob got his. Ahhh... that was nice. I also cheered when Juliet went down the hole - that was nice, too (but then cried to see she wasn't dead and splattered). Oh well... can't win 'em all.
"Ricardus"... heh, that was cool. And nice to see they actually showed more of the statue and explained a (tiny) bit more. More info on the island is always good. Less character stuff for Lost (Kate is a complete twit, and has been for 3 seasons now) is also good. As others have mentioned - that whole triangle (now square?) thing isn't working for me.
Fast Learner
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I'm not so sure that Jacob leads the Others at all. He certainly doesn't acknowledge it to Ben, and gets stabbed as a result. I didn't cheer at all.
Smokey/Christian/New Locke/Claire/Esau is the one going around killing people, judging them and killing them. Jacob is the one weaving the threads to bring them to the island. I'm not so sure the good/evil thing is at all clear at this point.
Smokey/Christian/New Locke/Claire/Esau is the one going around killing people, judging them and killing them. Jacob is the one weaving the threads to bring them to the island. I'm not so sure the good/evil thing is at all clear at this point.
Arnwyn
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Well, that is why I included the word "if":
But, Ben and Richard did confirm they have a relationship with Jacob, that the "lists" came from Jacob, Richard knew the hangout of Jacob, etc. Walks/quacks like a duck... They'll have to have some cute little narrative contortions in the last season if they want to have it otherwise. I'm definitely looking forward to full disclosure.
(And the Others beat and kill people. Often, viciously, quickly, no questions asked. As the instigators. That has long since been shown and made abundantly clear over 5 seasons. That's not up for debate, AFAIC.)
Arnwyn said:
But, Ben and Richard did confirm they have a relationship with Jacob, that the "lists" came from Jacob, Richard knew the hangout of Jacob, etc. Walks/quacks like a duck... They'll have to have some cute little narrative contortions in the last season if they want to have it otherwise. I'm definitely looking forward to full disclosure.
(And the Others beat and kill people. Often, viciously, quickly, no questions asked. As the instigators. That has long since been shown and made abundantly clear over 5 seasons. That's not up for debate, AFAIC.)
Fast Learner
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I understand you're saying "if," but that doesn't really scan with your cheering when Jacob was killed, as far as I can tell.
Ben never spoke to Jacob, got his notes from someone, we don't know who. Only Richard has said that Jacob leads the Others.
Yes, the Others are bad guys, I'm not arguing that. Jacob's ties to the Others aren't indicated by anyone except Smokey/Esau/New Locke and Richard. Doesn't require any contortion other than "Richard was misled" or "Richard is intentionally misleading." Ben being misled by Smokey/Esau isn't difficult to imagine at all.
Ben never spoke to Jacob, got his notes from someone, we don't know who. Only Richard has said that Jacob leads the Others.
Yes, the Others are bad guys, I'm not arguing that. Jacob's ties to the Others aren't indicated by anyone except Smokey/Esau/New Locke and Richard. Doesn't require any contortion other than "Richard was misled" or "Richard is intentionally misleading." Ben being misled by Smokey/Esau isn't difficult to imagine at all.
Arnwyn
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Oh heavens, just personal bias on my part. If it's even remotely related to the Others and something bad happens to them, I 'cheer' at home while I watch.
My personal preferences and reactions scan just fine, thanks.
Sure. And I'm going with that.
We'll see.
Fast Learner
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Didn't mean anything negative about it seeming to "not scan," just didn't follow your intention.
El Mahdi
Muad'Dib of the Anauroch
Don't know if anyone is following this thread anymore (last post was 4 days ago) but I only just now saw the finale.
I did a wikipedia search on Egyptian deities and think I've got a match. I believe it's the god Sobek, minus the sun disc on his head (which would mean he's an early incarnation - before his connection with Ra). Sobek was a righter of wrongs and a creation deity. Any idea what that may mean for the shows plot?
If it's not Sobek, the only other possiblity I see is Ammit. Ammit is a god of the underworld who enacts divine retribution for the wrongs one commits in life. That may be a cool connection to the island, but I think Sobek is probably the more correct choice.
So, what do you all think?
P.S.: Sawyer and Jack have been heading for that confrontation since day 1. It's about damn time they had it out.
I did a wikipedia search on Egyptian deities and think I've got a match. I believe it's the god Sobek, minus the sun disc on his head (which would mean he's an early incarnation - before his connection with Ra). Sobek was a righter of wrongs and a creation deity. Any idea what that may mean for the shows plot?
If it's not Sobek, the only other possiblity I see is Ammit. Ammit is a god of the underworld who enacts divine retribution for the wrongs one commits in life. That may be a cool connection to the island, but I think Sobek is probably the more correct choice.
So, what do you all think?
P.S.: Sawyer and Jack have been heading for that confrontation since day 1. It's about damn time they had it out.
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