Kristian Serrano
Explorer
I was referring to drow in Eberron specifically. Drow are painted as tribal groups that survive off the land in Xen'drik and sometimes war against each other as well as against giants.phindar said:
why orc pc?
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Kahuna Burger
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two random comments.
1) Drow are "usually" evil, while orcs are "often" evil. I think usually > often, but I'm not sure.
2) The hubby is playing a drow PC in a game currently and decided to break the "naturally chaotic good outcast shunned by his people and the rest of the world equally" mold. His drow was taken from his evil and now dead parents by adventurers as a child and raised by surface elves. He is non angsty, holding only mild pity for the drow who remain trapped in darkness, completely accepted within his own village, and aiming for the Champion of Cor. Lor. (elf god with the dumb name) PrC. He understands that some people get confused by his dark skin but doesn't take it personally. He knows that he is as much an elf as any other, and has nothing to prove over any other adventurer. And he uses an elven coreblade. (though the DM threw a magic scimitar into the treasure shortly after he joined, leading to mild crisis of utility vs cheese.
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1) Drow are "usually" evil, while orcs are "often" evil. I think usually > often, but I'm not sure.
2) The hubby is playing a drow PC in a game currently and decided to break the "naturally chaotic good outcast shunned by his people and the rest of the world equally" mold. His drow was taken from his evil and now dead parents by adventurers as a child and raised by surface elves. He is non angsty, holding only mild pity for the drow who remain trapped in darkness, completely accepted within his own village, and aiming for the Champion of Cor. Lor. (elf god with the dumb name) PrC. He understands that some people get confused by his dark skin but doesn't take it personally. He knows that he is as much an elf as any other, and has nothing to prove over any other adventurer. And he uses an elven coreblade. (though the DM threw a magic scimitar into the treasure shortly after he joined, leading to mild crisis of utility vs cheese.
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rossik said:
"Original Post" or "Original Poster", depending on context.
"Effective Character Level" - A monster with hefty powers as a first level fighter is more powerful than a human first level fighter. To make up th difference, the monster has an ECL. A drow first level fighter is actually a third level character (one for fighter, and two for being drow), and advances as if he were 3rd, instead of 1st level.
Kahuna Burger said:(though the DM threw a magic scimitar into the treasure shortly after he joined, leading to mild crisis of utility vs cheese.
Complete sidetrack - did any other comic book fans here suddenly get the phrase "Crisis of Infinite Cheese" popping into their heads?
prosfilaes
Adventurer
rossik said:
I think it comes down to probability; orcs are an incredibly prolific species that interacts with humans constantly. It's quite probable that any neutral or evil mercenary group would pick up a few here and there, that maybe one or two raiders would take a look around and decide that maybe the humans have a good life, that there would be a few people making a living selling goods from one society to the other. Most societies living side-by-side on the Earth have had some immigration both ways, unless one is so hostile to outsiders to make it impossible. I bet some bullies and jerks from human society who are strong enough join orc society.
Drow, on the other hand, don't live side-by-side with humans. They don't have that back and forth, and live in a society that seems to be much more intense about the right alignment and the right way to live.
TerraDave
5ever, or until 2024
Drow are given as a PC race in Unearthed Arcana. It was this book that spawned everyones favorite drow ranger.
Outside maybe the "Orcs of Thar" gazateer (assuming I am not making this up), I don't know of official rules to play an orc before 3ed--where you can play all sort of things. (and in this context, could you also play a "shadow elf", again assuming I am not making this up).
Outside maybe the "Orcs of Thar" gazateer (assuming I am not making this up), I don't know of official rules to play an orc before 3ed--where you can play all sort of things. (and in this context, could you also play a "shadow elf", again assuming I am not making this up).
Mechanically its much easier to fit an Orc into a party, they don't have the arms length list of special powers that a Drow does.
I've never featured a Drow in one of my games, and have never featured them as a race in a campaign. They have to much cultural baggage (FR) to be included without massive changes. My 'evil elf' is a more Warhammer like Dark Elf.
Orcs are better balanced with respect to the other races, and their abilities are far more general. Their culture is also far more generalized (rampaging hordes), so they are easier to fit into a campaign world.
I've never featured a Drow in one of my games, and have never featured them as a race in a campaign. They have to much cultural baggage (FR) to be included without massive changes. My 'evil elf' is a more Warhammer like Dark Elf.
Orcs are better balanced with respect to the other races, and their abilities are far more general. Their culture is also far more generalized (rampaging hordes), so they are easier to fit into a campaign world.
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