I think the basic premise of this thread was to give the newly vampirised PC only very minor if any vampire ability, and let him pay for them just as he would for normal class/race abilities. There is nothing they absolutely need from a flavor perspective, except for disadvantages.Imaro said:Emphasis mine: That's what I'm talking about...You can throw all the roleplaying justfication you want out there, but in the end the player has gained more power in a game sense, for loosing a fight to an undead. Why am I fighting against him again?
Of course you don't want to encourage munchkins to become vampires.
Well, who says you find a vampire or that if you do, the vampire is currently in need of a spawn and doesn't just kill you?Yeah you need DM consent, sort of...but what stops you, except heavy-handed tactics by the DM, if you go looking for a vamp.
If a DM doesn't consent to a vampiric PC, he has no reason to make one.
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