Wild Ideas in general

[Greenfield]

You can't hurt someone else while you're in Time Stop, period. You can't affect them at all.

In 1e, however, Timestop didn't speed you up, it froze everyone en the area, and you could affect them. It was the "I'm going to kill God" spell.

Regarding that 95% Magic Resistance though, the rules said that that was based on a 10th level caster. Adjust by 5% up or down per level of difference. A 25th level caster, being 15 levels above 10th, knocked 75% off that number, so his MR was only 20% against your friend's character. (It's actually pretty easy to translate 1e MR to 3.*e SR. 5% per caster level equals 1 point on the D20 per caster level, so the math translates straight across.)

This was a rule, by the way, than most "munchkin" type players conveniently failed to know, because it nerfed their own "I'm 95% resistant to your monster spells" character, and anything that made them less than godlike simply couldn't be.

 

[kitcik]

As I said, we had homebrew for deity level beings. One part of this was that magic resistance for them was never reduced. So, while his minions were screwed, Yeenoghu had full 95% resistance.

 

[xigbar]

If you consider it an area attack no, but its duration wouldn't be longer than the time stop anyway.

I think

You can't hurt someone else while you're in Time Stop, period. You can't affect them at all.

In 1e, however, Timestop didn't speed you up, it froze everyone en the area, and you could affect them. It was the "I'm going to kill God" spell.

Actually, what it says is "other creatures are invulnerable to your attacks and spells; you cannot target such creatures with any attack or spell. A spell that affects an area and has a duration longer than the remaining duration of the time stop have their normal effects on other creatures once the time stop ends," so if your dropped rock is targeting the square, which is not a creature, you should be able to target it. The creature just happsn to be standing on it.

 

[anest1s]

Actually, what it says is "other creatures are invulnerable to your attacks and spells; you cannot target such creatures with any attack or spell. A spell that affects an area and has a duration longer than the remaining duration of the time stop have their normal effects on other creatures once the time stop ends," so if your dropped rock is targeting the square, which is not a creature, you should be able to target it. The creature just happsn to be standing on it.

Ok its not a spell. But I still think its not allowed somewhere in there

 

[Ragmon]

Well I killed a lich by placing he's phylactary in a bag-o'-holding then trowing a knife in there to cut it open so the contents will be forever lost....since we were in a tight spot the DM said "well ok, the lich crubles and dies"...or something like that.

 

[Greenfield]

So, regarding Time Stop: You figure that if you target someone accidentally/on purpose they stop being invulnerable? (As opposed to on-purpose/on-purpose I mean).

Let's all cast a collective Dispel BS on that one. We've all seen the variations on "Well, it isn't an attack and it isn't aimed at them, it will just kill them accidentally, so I'm still invisible, right?".

People in a time-stop are invulnerable to anything that happens during the time-stop. Things that continue after the time-stop, or occur outside of it's time frame will act normally, but it no longer leaves its victims helpless.

 

[xigbar]

Ok its not a spell. But I still think its not allowed somewhere in there

I'm genuinely curious to see evidence of this. I'm not calling you out or anything, I want to know if this is viable (from anyone) so that I may try it.

 

[xigbar]

So, regarding Time Stop: You figure that if you target someone accidentally/on purpose they stop being invulnerable? (As opposed to on-purpose/on-purpose I mean).

Let's all cast a collective Dispel BS on that one. We've all seen the variations on "Well, it isn't an attack and it isn't aimed at them, it will just kill them accidentally, so I'm still invisible, right?".

People in a time-stop are invulnerable to anything that happens during the time-stop. Things that continue after the time-stop, or occur outside of it's time frame will act normally, but it no longer leaves its victims helpless.

The text of Time Stop doesn't say that. I'm not saying it's logical, I'm saying, by the very text, it works unless you can find another text that states otherwise.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

 

[anest1s]

I'm genuinely curious to see evidence of this. I'm not calling you out or anything, I want to know if this is viable (from anyone) so that I may try it.

Well I am not going to defend the text, I wasn't the one who wrote it

Could you place a garrote on someone?
Could you dig a hole under their feet?
etc etc

I don't know, its up to the DM I guess

I think the Astral plane is the best plane one can travel to