The Ubbergeek
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Wasn't Gary quoted to be a lousy businessman?
The Ubbergeek said:Wasn't Gary quoted to be a lousy businessman?
Perhaps it can be used as another example of "30 minutes of fun in four hours!"Gunpowder said:I really can't see any meaningful parallels drawn between Monopoly and D&D. One is a ubiquitous board game that is gathering dust in the closet with underneath hungry hungry hippos and operation and the other has a smaller but more active consumer base that care about it enough to argue with each over an edition that won't be coming out in another 6 months. Is there anything D&D can gain from Monopoly?
JRRNeiklot said:Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he can't count.
JRRNeiklot said:So now you're calling Gary a liar, right?
I have the record from every car, chainsaw, lawn mower, dvd player, power tool, or electronic gizmo I've ever bought, but I can't tell you how much any but the last one cost.
All either of us can do is speculate without hard data, so this is nothing more than a pissing contest. In terms of profit, sure 3e probably made more money, due to the inflated price tag, but in terms of sales, I'd bet AD&D 1e had it over 3e's best in spades.
JRRNeiklot said:Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he can't count.
Mistwell said:"I'm simply suggesting that he made a comment without having all the facts. In his opinion, D&D [was] selling better...That's great, but unless his data goes [forward] to [now], it's incomplete."
Given two people, one with the complete data, the other without the complete data, I am going to trust the one with complete data. And in this case, Gary is the one without the complete data.
Right now, you are arguing based off your instincts and a guy with woefully incomplete data's instincts vs. the guy with all the data. It's an argument that simply isn't persuasive. If you had no dog in this race, I am guessing you would doubt you as well![]()
Fifth Element said:Are you suggesting we bookmark this thread and check back in 70 years? I think you're missing two points:
1. D&D has only been around for 33 years. When Monopoly was that age, the rules were not solidly established yet.
Mourn said:You can't count numbers you don't have. Now, unless you can prove that Gary somehow has TSR's sale records from 1985-1997 and then WotC's sales records from 1997-2007, his counting of the sales from 1974-1985 don't tell anywhere near the whole picture, and thus can't be taken as an authoritative source on what edition of D&D sold the best.
JRRNeiklot said:Okay, you've convinced me, if the current designers say the earth is flat, and someone else says it's round, I should believe the former. Got it.