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Another issue to consider with reincarnation is the idea that it makes druids effectively immortal. Since a reincarnated character comes back as a new race in the prime of life, it's not a really large stretch to imagince that a cabal of druids would organize around the idea of constantly bringing eachother back. You only need two seventh level druids to make an agreement and neither one will ever die of old age. To make things that much more legal, each member deeds his belongings to the other who is then gifted back with those belongings when he comes back.

Realistically, it would not take very long before many druids wandering around in a given campaign world would be extremely high level. They're not in any hurry, so they could take their time, plan and minimize risk and advance, say, a single level per year. Or even 5 years. After a hundred years, perhaps a couple of new bodies, every member of the cabal is now a 20th level druid. Add in the Thousand Faces ability, and the druid really doesn't have to care what race he comes back as. He can simply Alter Self himself back to his old form.

Imagine competing cabal's of druids, each with differing goals and alignments, waging wars that last centuries using all the resources of nature to establish their own vision of natural balance in the world. NE druids seek destruction in order that the strongest dominate while NG druids attempt to build a Disneyfied natural order of fuzzy kittens. CN druids unleash breeding experiments lasting hundreds of generations upon unsuspecting towns simply to watch the results while LN druids try to maintain a perfect balance of all things.

Could make for a very interesting background plot in a campaign.

E.N. Critters - Interlopers from the Blasted Realm if I could sir.
 

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Hussar said:
A nasty Reincarnation idea.

Cruel thou art! Mean too. :)

Have you read GURPS: Cabal from Steve Jackson Games? Your idea re (effectively) immortal druids would work great with it. And it need not be limited to druids.

And think of the rumors and folk tales it would engender.

Courtier: I hear that every century the Immortal King is replaced for a few years by a goblin or troll, then returns. Where does the Immortal King go, and why would he put a goblin or troll in his place, even for a short time?
 
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Kahuna Burger said:
It wasn't until after I was married to the player in question that I finally realized it was all about his obsession with Notre Dame :confused:

HA! :D

That's frickin' great! Something tells me that list didn't have a Fighting Irishman on it. 'Course, if he was a fan of the other college that breeds hate of Michigan (Ohio State), he'd be pulling for reincarnation as a buckeye treant! :confused:
 

Estlor said:
HA! :D

That's frickin' great! Something tells me that list didn't have a Fighting Irishman on it. 'Course, if he was a fan of the other college that breeds hate of Michigan (Ohio State), he'd be pulling for reincarnation as a buckeye treant! :confused:
I promised him if I ever killed his character again, he could come back as a pipe smoking grig. :cool:

(are there schools that don't hate michigan? :p )
 

Kahuna Burger said:
I promised him if I ever killed his character again, he could come back as a pipe smoking grig. :cool:

(are there schools that don't hate michigan? :p )

I live in Wisconsin and I don't think that the University of Wiscon...wait, what's that...uh, I just got a memo from UW forbidding me from stating such blatant lies... :heh:

I guess there aren't any (I heard some Michigan students just talking about how much they hated it)... ;)
 

Kahuna Burger said:
(as it turned out he came back as a wolverine, which in a low item game significantly raised his power level even with the level loss. He was resentful of the character change for the rest of the game, even though he had excepted animal reincarnation vs a new character. It wasn't until after I was married to the player in question that I finally realized it was all about his obsession with Notre Dame :confused: )
Thanks for the link. I now know that there is a rivalry between Notre Dame and Wisconsin.

From this I can only assume that Wisconsin are the Wolverines. If I'm wrong, it would be a nice gesture if someone could correct me, but no sweat either way - I can't see that information ever being of any use to me :) .

I'm Welsh, and we have some fierce local rivalries that mystify outsiders. However, I couldn't imagine being prejudiced against an animal because another team had chosen it as its emblem. I'm not used to being outdone in the irrational sporting prejudices stakes. I'll have to try and cultivate a hatred of ospreys!
 

amethal said:
Thanks for the link. I now know that there is a rivalry between Notre Dame and Wisconsin.

From this I can only assume that Wisconsin are the Wolverines. If I'm wrong, it would be a nice gesture if someone could correct me, but no sweat either way - I can't see that information ever being of any use to me :) .

I'm Welsh, and we have some fierce local rivalries that mystify outsiders. However, I couldn't imagine being prejudiced against an animal because another team had chosen it as its emblem. I'm not used to being outdone in the irrational sporting prejudices stakes. I'll have to try and cultivate a hatred of ospreys!

Actually, Michigan is the Wolverines and Wisconsin is the Badgers. Both of which are stubborn and at times savage beasts that guard the tunnels to the land of the dead, and prevent the deceased from returning to life unless a payment of a Rose, Orange or Sugar is offered. Alternately, a wild Fiesta thrown in their honor will also persuade them to allow the deceased to return...
 

amethal said:
Thanks for the link. I now know that there is a rivalry between Notre Dame and Wisconsin.

From this I can only assume that Wisconsin are the Wolverines. If I'm wrong, it would be a nice gesture if someone could correct me, but no sweat either way - I can't see that information ever being of any use to me :) .

neither did I until I gamed with and married a rabid ND fan. :D

I'm Welsh, and we have some fierce local rivalries that mystify outsiders. However, I couldn't imagine being prejudiced against an animal because another team had chosen it as its emblem. I'm not used to being outdone in the irrational sporting prejudices stakes. I'll have to try and cultivate a hatred of ospreys!
Dude, college football is just out there. I just noticed that the book specificly classifies the rivalry in terms of "Major College Football". Which is probably so there wouldn't be 101 arguments about how [whatever state] U vs [whatever state] State is a more bitter rivalry. :confused:
 

FickleGM said:
Actually, Michigan is the Wolverines and Wisconsin is the Badgers. Both of which are stubborn and at times savage beasts that guard the tunnels to the land of the dead, and prevent the deceased from returning to life unless a payment of a Rose, Orange or Sugar is offered. Alternately, a wild Fiesta thrown in their honor will also persuade them to allow the deceased to return...
I take it an offering of Continental Tires just won't cut it? :p
 


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