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Witcher (Netflix)

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Haven't played the games or read the books. Watched it with my wife who didn't even know it was a series of games. We quite enjoyed it. I give props to Henry Cavill for being able to well emote someone who supposedly has little emotions - that's got to be a tricky line to act. But his hmms were filled with meaning.

After finishing it, my wife has already ordered the books under the assumption I'll read them after she has. She's right.

I like it wasn't dumbed down, and expected viewers to follow around in different times without being held by the hand. Fight scenes were dynamic (though some variation), and gory enough to be uncomfortable without going over the top.
 

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Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
Never heard of the game or the books- But saw the hoopla about it recently-I forced myself through the 1st episode. It's certainly no Stranger Things or Lost in Space.

I really don't understand why so much fantasy is done so poorly on-screen. The acting was -eh. The setting seemed anachronistic.
The setting is definitely not "chronistic". The world is the result of a clash of worlds (aka the Conjunction of Spheres). We know very little about it (and I remember probably even less from the novels). But it's not humanity's past. It's humans, displaced to a new world that contained elves, and together with the humans, hordes of monsters also invaded. One can imagine that this was quite world-shattering for everyone, and anything we could predict from "our" medieval times could be off, simply because some knowledge, some culture was lost, while others was retained, and other aspects might actually come not from the humans, but other races. The Elves taught humans magic, but the humans breed like rabbits humans, and the Elves didn't know how to handle the kind of aggressive expansion humanity engaged in, fighting back far too late.

I'd say that's fantasy just done right - clearly fantastic, not an attempt to be historical (though some argue that elements of the history and story of the novels might mirror the history of Poland, minus the magic.)
 

5atbu

Explorer
Rotten Tomatoes Critics Consensus: "The world of The Witcher still only feels half-formed as it gallops onto screens, but Henry Cavill brings brawny charisma to a series teeming with subversive fantasy elements and dark humor. "
That is no bad way to introduce a world: bit by bit.
The books are more grim than the TV so far. They are very based in the horror of the wars in Poland in WW2; and all the better for it.
I think the series has made a great start.
Don't worry too much about the setting, it'll grow out of the stories.
 
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BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
The setting is definitely not "chronistic". The world is the result of a clash of worlds (aka the Conjunction of Spheres). We know very little about it (and I remember probably even less from the novels). But it's not humanity's past. It's humans, displaced to a new world that contained elves, and together with the humans, hordes of monsters also invaded. One can imagine that this was quite world-shattering for everyone, and anything we could predict from "our" medieval times could be off, simply because some knowledge, some culture was lost, while others was retained, and other aspects might actually come not from the humans, but other races. The Elves taught humans magic, but the humans breed like rabbits humans, and the Elves didn't know how to handle the kind of aggressive expansion humanity engaged in, fighting back far too late.

I'd say that's fantasy just done right - clearly fantastic, not an attempt to be historical (though some argue that elements of the history and story of the novels might mirror the history of Poland, minus the magic.)
This is what makes it feel more like a D&D setting to me than a lot of other Fantasy Fictions settings. It's a world filled with competing organizations of high magic users, competing human kingdoms, Old High elven lore, and current elf freedom fighters. religious zealotry, and most importantly monsters, monsters, and more monsters. With a secretive order of rangers dedicated to protecting civilization from these monsters.

I could run a 5e game in Witcherland with far fewer tweaks than say Middle-Earth or Westeros.

And now I want to.
 
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Beleriphon

Totally Awesome Pirate Brain
If I haven't read the books or played the games, how much will this spoil future seasons of the tv show, do you think?

Not at all, it basically explains very, very briefly the state of the world at around the time frame of The Witcher 3 without spoiling the game plot. It actually does a good job of barely even referencing the books and instead says: here's how D&D rules/classes/etc. would work in The Witcher stories with a enough background to explain. The biggest reveal is The Witcher 3 involves a second Conjunction which Geralt stops (you discover this relatively late in the game, but its nothing unexpected really) and it doesn't explain how or why Geralt does this.

Edit: The Witcher class (yes it has a new class) has some discussion about the history of witchers and some of the plot points from the novels and first game. Nothing about it should be a big spoiler, the most significant one is that the Cat School of witchers betray the Wolf School and Geralt along with his sorceress friends wreck holy havoc on the Cats.

Oh, a bit of the end of The Witcher 2 I suppose. Again, nothing specific at all. I'm not sure the Netflix series will ever deal with game elements given how The Witcher (the first game) and why its even a game.
 
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doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I think the Witcher class itself is a bit complicated for my tastes too, but it's obvious that a lot of work and thought went into this, which means less work and thought for me!
Yeah agreed. I'd probably just build a variant ranger with something like a ki system in place of spells, and 5 simple but effective Signs he can use with them, and use the UA variants of favored enemy and natural explorer.
 

BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
Yeah agreed. I'd probably just build a variant ranger with something like a ki system in place of spells, and 5 simple but effective Signs he can use with them, and use the UA variants of favored enemy and natural explorer.
UA Variants came to my mind too and I'm lazy enough that Signs could just be appropriate spell lists. I like the idea of the Witcher potions, but I may try for a simpler drawback system. Like 1 level of exhaustion when a potion's effects wear off. That should pair well with the Tireless UA option.

I do like a lot of the Witcher School options more than some of the official Ranger subclasses. I'll give those some thought.
 
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doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
UA Variants came to my mind too and I'm lazy enough that Signs could just be appropriate spell lists. I like the idea of the Witcher potions, but I may try for a simpler drawback system. Like 1 level of exhaustion when a potions effects where off. That should pair well with the Tireless UA option.

I do like a lot of the Witcher School options more than some of the official Ranger subclasses. I'll give those some thought.
Great points. I'll have to take another look at those and see what I come up with.
 

Scott DeWar

Prof. Emeritus-Supernatural Events/Countermeasure
I have seen Stranger things [all], The Witcher, and so many others. I am just now getting around to The Magicians.

I want more Witcher and Stranger Things gosh darn it !!!
 

Vael

Hero
Finished it tonight. The end battle was really cool, I enjoyed most of the characters. I didn't mind the time shifts, but I think they could've been more explicit about it. Yes, there were some references early, but I missed them. I have had "Toss a Coin to Your Witcher" stuck in my head, but it was a bit of a welcome respite from the other songs that have been in there. Actually, my main complaints were not enough Jaskier and that I just didn't care much for Ciri.
 



Netflix has released an interactive timeline / map (spoilers if you haven't finished watching):

I'm on episode 5, still deciding whether or not I like it. Trying to follow the timeline is probably the worst part of the show. Nothing seems to be told in any particular order, and it's really hard to figure out passage of time or when events occur. I think I'm actually more confused after looking at that web page.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I'm on episode 5, still deciding whether or not I like it. Trying to follow the timeline is probably the worst part of the show. Nothing seems to be told in any particular order, and it's really hard to figure out passage of time or when events occur. I think I'm actually more confused after looking at that web page.
I've got two to go. I find I have to kinda make myself watch them.
 

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