Wizards Sleep Requirements
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BlackSilver
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Harmon,
Feeling that we are contributing is something we all must have to enjoy the games we play.
If you’re are not feeling that you are contributing
then perhaps you need a new character or a different direction for this one, or perhaps as you suggested in another thread (or was it this one?) that your tactics for playing a wizard are somewhat lacking. 
Perhaps there are to many wizards in your group and that is taking away from your share of the feeling that you are contributing. How many times does another wizards cast the exact spell you were going to cast just a moment before you were going to cast it? Does that happen often?
Do you have a share of the loot going into scroll making, wand making, and such? Or is it out of wizard’s pocket? If it is coming out of the wizard's pouch then you can feel drained to because everyone else has lots of items that are permanently with them while you use and drop the remains in a disposable fashion.
My Players have a system- they have an extra share that goes into the making of disposable magic items, everyone benefits from the Wand of Lesser Restoration, or Scroll of Fireballs. No one seems to mind supporting the wizards and clerics in my campaigns because the wizard pays in XP to make the scrolls and the Cleric makes the wands.
I hope you figure out your group dynamic problems soon (I think that is your root problem).
A reminder to everyone- please keep it positive or do not respond to threads of this nature.
Feeling that we are contributing is something we all must have to enjoy the games we play.
If you’re are not feeling that you are contributing
then perhaps you need a new character or a different direction for this one, or perhaps as you suggested in another thread (or was it this one?) that your tactics for playing a wizard are somewhat lacking. Perhaps there are to many wizards in your group and that is taking away from your share of the feeling that you are contributing. How many times does another wizards cast the exact spell you were going to cast just a moment before you were going to cast it? Does that happen often?
Do you have a share of the loot going into scroll making, wand making, and such? Or is it out of wizard’s pocket? If it is coming out of the wizard's pouch then you can feel drained to because everyone else has lots of items that are permanently with them while you use and drop the remains in a disposable fashion.
My Players have a system- they have an extra share that goes into the making of disposable magic items, everyone benefits from the Wand of Lesser Restoration, or Scroll of Fireballs. No one seems to mind supporting the wizards and clerics in my campaigns because the wizard pays in XP to make the scrolls and the Cleric makes the wands.
I hope you figure out your group dynamic problems soon (I think that is your root problem).
A reminder to everyone- please keep it positive or do not respond to threads of this nature.
Due to a few recent threads placed on ENWorld intended to hash out probelms and find different ideas on how to handle them I have caused one friend to stop having any kind of interaction with me and another- the GM, to feel a great bit of anger towards the campaign characters and more then likely me (I started this so why not)
So please I ask that you all let this thread die.
I thank you for your posts, your thoughts and your comments. I wish you all the best.
So please I ask that you all let this thread die.
I thank you for your posts, your thoughts and your comments. I wish you all the best.
ARandomGod
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Yea, you need to do some talking out of game, and/or realize the GM doesn't like casters, and make something else... Other alternatives include buying a portable hole and a necklace of adaptation at high enough levels. Then go there to sleep. Presto, no interruptions. It also works great for sleeping while the party is traveling.
Other interesting ideas along that line:
"The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but she must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period."
So, as long as you don't DO anything even if you are woken up, then you've gotten the appropriate rest. Since you weren't gonna do anything anyway, why bother to get up? Unless the enemy gets past the meat shields, just set up a place to sleep with full cover from ranged weapons (get a special mobile/collapsable tower shield type setup). Then you're fine just laying there and watching combat.
Edit: Addition...
You can also maintain a mostly casterish aspect while going the arcane trickster route. Of course, I've never attempted that without starting as a rogue, it's always harder to shoot for a PrC after the character's been started up.
Other interesting ideas along that line:
"The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but she must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period."
So, as long as you don't DO anything even if you are woken up, then you've gotten the appropriate rest. Since you weren't gonna do anything anyway, why bother to get up? Unless the enemy gets past the meat shields, just set up a place to sleep with full cover from ranged weapons (get a special mobile/collapsable tower shield type setup). Then you're fine just laying there and watching combat.
Edit: Addition...
You can also maintain a mostly casterish aspect while going the arcane trickster route. Of course, I've never attempted that without starting as a rogue, it's always harder to shoot for a PrC after the character's been started up.
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As long as this is already so near the top....
I havn't seen the other threads, but there's no way your GM should be offended by any of this. Even if a forum post were somehow problematic, well, its just a game, and its just a forum post! If your friends are mad at you because of it, someone (presumably the mad friend, but we havn't heard their side) are being very silly.
So, my advice (to everyone) is "Illegitimati non Carborundum." Put another way, chill babie, chill.
Sorry if this is unwanted.
-Mei
I havn't seen the other threads, but there's no way your GM should be offended by any of this. Even if a forum post were somehow problematic, well, its just a game, and its just a forum post! If your friends are mad at you because of it, someone (presumably the mad friend, but we havn't heard their side) are being very silly.
So, my advice (to everyone) is "Illegitimati non Carborundum." Put another way, chill babie, chill.
Sorry if this is unwanted.
-Mei
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Harmon said:
Harmon, would you like this thread closed? We are happy to do so at the thread originators request
Cheers,
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Plane Sailing said:
Not sure but I think that was his intent. I am not sure but I don't think Harmon will be here any time soon to answer your question.
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