World's Largest Dungeon in actual play [Spoilers!]

[haiiro]

I know everyone is hard at work, digesting this book, but please let me know if you're ready for alternate plots for Regions B and E and I'll post them on here.

I'm most of the way through reading B, so chalk me up for some alternate plots. Seeing some of the comments here has made me want to skip around, so my reading's been a bit less focused lately.

 

[twofalls]

Sure, send the new ideas Jim... but there is no freaking way I'm going to change things after today's seven hour editing session...

 

[CrimsonScribe]

btw... wasn't that crimson fellow from the other list
going to ask some questions about how to get through
Region D ?!?!?!

That I was, but I decided sleep was more important.

So my question was in Region D, I'm assuming the players are required to use their own "talents" to get from D1 to D2 as they are spereated by 40-50 feet of molten lava - not something I want to be "swimming" through even if you do only take 6d6 instead of the usual 20d6.

Also, curiousity got the better of me and I skipped to the end of Region A to find out more about Longtail. Upon seeing his stat block, I assume players aren't meant to clear Region A before moving onto either Region B or Region E as a CR7 critter seems a tad troublesome for a party that is only meant to level twice in the region.

P.S. If it doesn't show, I'm a very infrequent DM - in fact that last time I DM'ed was under 2e rules so I'm quite rusty, though I have been playing regularly under 3e and 3.5e.

 

[twofalls]

Also, curiousity got the better of me and I skipped to the end of Region A to find out more about Longtail. Upon seeing his stat block, I assume players aren't meant to clear Region A before moving onto either Region B or Region E as a CR7 critter seems a tad troublesome for a party that is only meant to level twice in the region.

If you've GMed a lot under 1/2e you should to fine here. If you have typcial group of 4 PC's comprising the party and they are in relativly good health then they stand a fair chance against Longtail due to the spells he has availible to him. Also, smart PC's are going to have missilers of thier own holding action to fire on Longtail when he casts spells to try to spoil them (hence his reliance on the sheild spell).

His two dangerous combat spells are sleep and magic missile, if the party is really unlucky they might succumb to those. The MM is particuarly dangerous to low level spellcasters as they have few hit points and as a 7th level caster Longtail gets three missiles. Since he is a sorcerer he can cast them both over and over again. You can counter this by the way you play Longtail. If you notice his others spells are defensive in nature and the text itself points out that he isn't excited about fighting for this real estate since things havn't gone his way. If the PC's get one or two good hits (and they should) on him then he will cloak in invisibility and leave... to haunt them later?

The spoiler is Achyyx, invisible flying poision is nothing to scoff at when you are third level. If you have a minimal party you may want to reconsider if the Imp wants to fight this fight. Maybe he holds off and lurks to see how his master fares, his orders are to keep the portal open at all costs. If Longtail wipes out the party without him having to risk his red hide then great... If the party drives Longtail away then he can attack and your group is only dealing with thier opponents one at a time.

Just some ideas...

 

[Demon Gnome]

Originally Posted by CrimsonScribe

Also, curiousity got the better of me and I skipped to the end of Region A to find out more about Longtail. Upon seeing his stat block, I assume players aren't meant to clear Region A before moving onto either Region B or Region E as a CR7 critter seems a tad troublesome for a party that is only meant to level twice in the region.

Just because something's CR is a ways above the group, doesn't mean it isn't doable. A lvl 3 group vs a EL 3 basically means they expend like 1/4(?) of their resources .... something a ways higher means they have to expend a lot more of their resources all at once.

Example: Our group recently encountered the main group of orcs at level 2. Though the EL was like 5 or 6, they were pretty rested at the time,and managed to handle the orcs well. Unfortunately the next encounter was the orc leader of a similiar EL, maybe 5 or so, don't have book handy. Because they were weakened from the previous fight, the one orc nearly wiped them out. (Raging orc with power attacks +5 hurts =P)

 

[jim pinto]

Just because something's CR is a ways above the group, doesn't mean it isn't doable. A lvl 3 group vs a EL 3 basically means they expend like 1/4(?) of their resources .... something a ways higher means they have to expend a lot more of their resources all at once.

Example: Our group recently encountered the main group of orcs at level 2. Though the EL was like 5 or 6, they were pretty rested at the time,and managed to handle the orcs well. Unfortunately the next encounter was the orc leader of a similiar EL, maybe 5 or so, don't have book handy. Because they were weakened from the previous fight, the one orc nearly wiped them out. (Raging orc with power attacks +5 hurts =P)

which is precisely what's supposed to happen



that's a good challenge in my opinion... and an excellently written encounter

haha

thanks, twofalls for the post

and crimson... getting from D1 to D2 is as simple as a fly spell,
something i suspect a group of 12th level PCs might have handy

just a guess.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Just to be clear most of that material Jim never saw. I wrote way over my word count (about 28K words over) and cut it down myself before showing it to Jim. It was my mistake for going way over my assigned wordage. But hey, now you all get to benefit from my mistake.

Lee

28K over word count?!?!?!?!?!

Jumpin' Jethro on a jet ski, man! People said I was insane for going 12K over on the WotC project I'm just now wrapping up!

(To say nothing of the fact that I was able to shuffle around much of that to be useful elsewhere, meaning I may only have to cut a few K...)

How on earth... Jeez, I can't even imagine.

If you don't mind my asking, what was your official count on the book? What does 28K over come to in terms of percentages?

 

[CrimsonScribe]

and crimson... getting from D1 to D2 is as simple as a fly spell, something i suspect a group of 12th level PCs might have handy

just a guess.

It's been a VERY long time since I was in control of a 12th level character - most of them have major problems living past 5th or 6th - but I thought as much.

I have other questions pertaining to this section, but there's no need to ask them yet as I'm many months from playing the region out.

 

[jim pinto]

28K over word count?!?!?!?!?!

Jumpin' Jethro on a jet ski, man! People said I was insane for going 12K over on the WotC project I'm just now wrapping up!

(To say nothing of the fact that I was able to shuffle around much of that to be useful elsewhere, meaning I may only have to cut a few K...)

How on earth... Jeez, I can't even imagine.

If you don't mind my asking, what was your official count on the book? What does 28K over come to in terms of percentages?

lee wrote 42k, 69k with stat blocks the 28k would have put it at 97k
of the 920k in the book, that's over 10%... which is why we had to trim it down

as it stands 69k was too long, but luckily, some of the other regions
(K, L, M) are shorter and took up some of the slack

and ari... you are mad

 

[Mouseferatu]

lee wrote 42k, 69k with stat blocks the 28k would have put it at 97k
of the 920k in the book, that's over 10%... which is why we had to trim it down

as it stands 69k was too long, but luckily, some of the other regions
(K, L, M) are shorter and took up some of the slack

and ari... you are mad

I'm not mad. I'm just insufficiently medicated.

So he wrote an extra 28K of what was essentially a 42K assignment? Holy Hana...

In either case, though I'm looking to forward to seeing this book once I get my own copy. I want to see how you folks finished up the section I began--but more to the point, I just want to see how it all hangs together.