Worlds & Monsters -- I has it, too!

[Lackhand]

I don't mind the others, but "Wee Jas", the god? He sounds like some kid from Glasgow.

She sounds like a kid from Glasgow.

Which, like many others, I agree is a shame, because she's a pretty rockin' goddess.

Here's hoping The Raven Queen is a thinly renamed Wee Jas. Or that at least, they salvage the cool bits.

 

[Badkarmaboy]

Actually quite a few of them are English translations but that is entirely irrelevant.

Also irrelevant is what their linguistic source is.

The point was that you're trying to be a smart ass and failing miserably due to your own lack of familiarity with the subject.

It's disapointing.

Your sarcasm skillz are sorely lacking and I'm merely trying to help you avoid looking foolish.

Come over to the circvs. I doubt you'll last long but if nothing else you're weak sauce will be good entertainment.

Still as I said I am trying to help. I'm rooting for you dude. I'm in your corner.

With some work we'll turn you into a lean, mean message board prick in no time!

It's actually "your weak sauce" not "you're weak sauce" from the implied usage your sentence.

Back on topic-Raven Queen is a little generic. When I initially read it I figured she was a death goddess. Once I found out she IS a death goddess, I reckoned the name got the job done. She can get a spiffy nickname or something to spice things up.

 

[HeavenShallBurn]

Actually the name Raven Queen is very good. Whether they knew it or not they were recreating a real world phenomena. In general many ancient gods' & goddess' had several names, a secret name know only to priests, a use name associated with prayer, a placating title used both to avoid invoking divine attention or retribution which was usually a title, and one or more descriptive names that were often not very flattering and thus considered unfavorable to use. There were several goddesses associated with battle or death in some manner who had a placatory title involving Raven iconography. So for me at least the name is a good one, both evocative and real.

What I don't like is the shadowfell's flavor and the statement that not even the gods know where the souls of the dead go. That they just sort of fade into nirvana and none have any contact or knowledge of what happens. In core D&D souls of the dead have always moved on to the realm of a divine patron or appropriate plane. That was one of the things that made D&D unique from all the other fantasy RPGs, it's afterlife was a real tangible thing, one PCs could literally go to and see.

 

[Wepwawet]

None of those are in English, tho.

Well, maybe there's the source of the entire problem: english language LOL
Anyway, if you only have one god, why do you need fancy names? It's just God, because there'll be no confusion

About gods names:
- I like "Raven Queen", mostly because there's a precedent in Celtic mythology, and because of that it's quite evocative.
- Wee Jas won't be in 4E?! Aww... I always loved this name, reminds me of jamaica and voodoo stuff. Never played a worshiper of her, though (Only now I realized it's a godess )

And apart from this naming stuff, what else is new in W&M???

 

[Reaper Steve]

It does give me a "Lady of Pain" vibe and I liked her. Does she have an actual name or just that title?

Any word on how the mechanical or flavor with the undead? Much thanks in advance.

No one knows it. There's some fluff about how Orcus thinks if he can learn her name, he can have power over her (since they both vie for the undead.)

 

[grimslade]

How about Eagle King. It's mysterious and really original!

There is no context for Eagle King, just two random words put together. Now if you were referencing a pastiche of Khyung, the tibetan eagle god or Quetzlcoatl, Eagle King works as a suitable stand in.

The raven has a certain symbolism in Western culture, especially english and gaelic culture. The Morrigan could be termed the Raven Queen (or Babh) Ravens feast on the slain, are birds of ill omen and are pretty big for a bird. A goddess with connections to death and shadow is reflected fairly well in the Raven Queen.

The name itself is apparently not very original. There are two bands named The Raven Queen, a historical fiction about the Lady Jane Grey titled the Raven Queen and another tween book about the Unseelie Fairy Court titled The Raven Queen (Voyage of the Basset #2).

 

[Stogoe]

There was a god in D&D called 'Wee' Jas? Boy, am I glad I never read the Greyhawk* fluff.


*oh, no, another compound name!!!!!

 

[Reaper Steve]

W&M Q's:
1) Any mentioning on alignment?
2) Are the 12 Dragon ages gone (anything mentioned on that)?
3) Playable monster races mentioned, eg. drow, aasimar and gnome?
4) Any places in the world borrowed from existing D&D worlds. Is there a plateau where evil wizards live? Hommlet (since The temple of EE is there)? Ravenloft castle?

1) Nothing directly. A little on good-unaligned-evil. Most people are unaligned. To be good means to champion right, evil is more than 'bad thoughts.'
2) Doesn't say. It mentions how the 3E MM give 12 ages of 10 dragons for 120 possibilities. It does mention they worked hard to differentiate the age categories, but no mention of if the categories themselves have changed.
3) No. Sure there's mention of drow and gnomes, but not as PCs.
4) Yes. They are salvaging most of the iconic D&D experiences and inserting them in the PoL (but they don't directly state it as such.) Ther have locations of note for each plane, and they include the City of Brass, the ToEE (no mention of Hommlet,) Isle of Dread, Vault of the Drow, to some.

 

[Mighty Veil]

There was a god in D&D called 'Wee' Jas?

How about Jee Bus? (Sorry can't resist *that* Simpsons ref )

 

[Reaper Steve]

Is there anything on the Dark Ones (Dark Stalkers and Dark Creepers originally introduced in the 1e Fiend Folio) besides a mention that they live in Feywild?

I'd like to know what distinguishes them from Shadar-Kai, Humans and Halflings.

Haven't seen anything yet. The quicklings probably ate them. I'm serious... the quicklings look nasty!