Worldwide oil crisis soon...

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Turanil said:
First of all: I hope I am not inadvertently mentioning a political thing with this. :heh: If it is the case, let me apologize.

So here is what I discovered yesterday: It looks like the world is heading relatively fast toward a freakin oil crisis (http://www.oilcrisis.com/). But you and me, most people, are not aware of it yet. What do you think is going to happen? Do we have replacement energy sources and technologies on the way? and especially for cars, planes, and other vehicles? Do you think such technologies will arrive very soon? I remember having read a few years ago an article about hydrogen/electricity cars for a near future (they said 20 years, so it should now be 12-15 years ahead), but then nothing...

Well, we're not simply running out of fuel. There are millions of gallons still left. What is getting expended is the reserves that they found like 30 years ago. There is likely still a lot of oil out there, but it will take investment to find, and tap.

However, demand is increasing very rapidly. The glut of SUVs and other gas guzzling vehicles on the road is definitely not helping. And now that countries like China and India are beginning to purchase increasing numbers of cars, the situation will get worse.

Interestingly, I was reading in McLean's that the current high price of oil is actually a distortion of fact. It's a deliberate manipulation by oil speculators and oil companies to increase their profits. At least according to supply and demand, the price should be a lot lower than it is. In addition to that, they pointed out that although the price of a barrel of oil has increased, and the media is all crying "oil crisis", in fact there isn't one. Even though the media trumpets the fact that the price of a barrel of oil has never passed $50 before, that number doesn't account for inflation. When you count inflation, the price per barrel was much higher during the oil crisis in the 70's. But, if you get the media to scream about a crisis, people get in a panic, and prices go up, which is good for those people who are investing in the industry.

Of course, none of this considers the fact that a fossil-fuel burning civilization is unsustainable. It's contributing to global warming, pollution, the destruction of the ozone layer, etc. Some of these factors may in fact lead to a new glaciation. And that would basically wipe out most of the northern countries, which, incidentally, have the majority of money, and technology, on the planet.

As to the idea of fuel cel cars, from what I understand, it's a bit of a red herring. Environmentalists are very big on them....but what it comes down to is this. Fuel cels require hydrogen to burn, in order to provide energy to power a car (or whatever). The byproduct of the reaction is water. Sounds great, so far, right?

But the problem is that the hydrogen itself requires energy to create. How is it done? By passing electricity through water. That electricity in turn must be created by other sources....be they wind power, nuclear, or, as is the case in most of the world, oil or coal burning power stations. And those power stations don't have nearly as good environmental controls on their emmisions as cars do, meaning that pollution may actually *increase*. Unless we move to entirely nuclear/solar/wind power, which is unlikely, as the latter two aren't the most efficient, and the first one creates pretty dangerous byproducts, and the anti-nuclear protesters did a pretty good job of ensuring that nuclear generators aren't seen in a very positive light.

At the end of the day, our way of life (as in, Western first world nations) is unsustainable. I don't think we're going to find some miracle that allows us to keep it up forever. Personally, I think the future looks pretty grim.....I suspect that civilization 400 years from now will not be nearly as priviliged as we are now...and they'll probably curse our names for putting them in that position.

Banshee
 
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Crothian said:
The problem is the enviromentalists will be starving to, and you can't eat "I told you so"

Yup...exactly. But it seems to be the mode du jour to keep putting it off until tomorrow. It's made worse by the fact that many corporations are permitted by government to feed the situation.

Personally, it pisses me off to no end to see the preponderance of SUVs on the road. In the city, they're largely unnecessary. And they create a major hazard for those of us driving smaller cars. These things should be heavily taxed...that might cause more people to be disinclined from buying them.

Banshee
 

trancejeremy said:
I remember stories like this when I was a kid in the 70s. Also, back then, about how the next Ice Age was soon to be upon us...

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Hey, I'm sure Nostradamus must have something about Ice Ages :)

In any case, as unbelievable as it sounds, it's probably likely. We've had, what....18 ice ages in a row, interspersed with "thawing periods" that last a few thousand years? Speaking statistical averages, we're past the average length of most thawing periods that they've had. Whether that means another one is coming in a year, or another 2000 years, who really knows?

Banshee
 

Crothian said:
The problem is the enviromentalists will be starving to, and you can't eat "I told you so"

No, but it will be gratifying in the end. Imagine two men, side by side on the street because nobody can afford to live in the houses they once thought they owned (nobody really owns their house, they still have to keep paying the government for them), both starving. One man contributed to the problem by owning an SUV, driving it everywhere, and consuming everything he could afford. The other man did his best vote for the party that stands for environmentalism, use as little fuel as possible by driving a fuel efficient vehicle, and recycling. In the end they both go to their grave, but one man can do so with a clear conscience while the other cannot. The man with the clear conscience will have every right to not only say "I told you so," but to also stone the other man to death and then sustain himself by eating him and his family's corpses. :lol:
 

howandwhy99 said:
57 miles? Pshaw! I'm going on 5 years without a vehicle this summer. Of course, I still rent every month or so, but I have never felt the gas crunch. Nor Atlanta traffic.

As a bonus work pays for free busing (which is natural gas powered) so my transportation costs are minimal. Plus I walk home 4 miles after work.

Now if the DOT would only spend at least 1% of its finances on building new sidewalks and bikelanes I might be able to walk directly home the 2 miles it should be. But the walk is good exercise. (and I need it)
Dude...you WALK in ATLANTA?! You're insane and I must admire your bravery. I lived up in Woodstock(just north of Marietta) for 9 years and I would barely walk down my driveway.

Of course, sidewalks would have been nice...
 


I'm not sure if I should be worried. I ride my bike a lot and rarely take the bus. Whell, I'll say this: If society as a whole runs out of oil, we will quickly turn back to the horse and carriage if no alternative becomes available.
 




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