Worst RPG Ever?

[SSS-Druid]

The shadow is supposed to be the worst part of your mind, that adquires consciousness at the time of your death. That part is played by another player. That´s it: another player spends half of his time fu**ing you.

I dunno - I suggest that you evaluate the game based on itself, rather than what was obviously a negative experience.

One of Wraith's optional rules was to allow a player to play your Shadow. This was intended for mature players who were interested in helping another player explore their character's "dark sides" in the context of the game. Not an in-game excuse to "fu**" the Psyche.

 

[techno]

Worst RPG? Avalon Hill's Powers and Perils. One reviewer called the rules "a math text gone awry." Needless to say, the game didn't last long. I have never seen such complexity in an RPG.

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Dragonlance SAGA rules, crap exept for the cool ultra flexable spell system. The two and a half times i played, i can up with some really cool stuff spell wise.

Marvel SAGA rules, on the other hand were real good, my gaming group still uses the system when we play. I even managed to gwt all the books, except the adventures.

 

[d20Dwarf]

All of you that are bashing Champions because of the complex character creation system just aren't getting it.

Character creation is the *reason* to play Champions. It *is* Champions. Hell, we used to have game nights devoted to character creation, then you do the "powers test" where everyone's character beats up on everyone else's character. Then you trash them and start making new ones.

Until you can squeeze a 10:1 real points:active points ratio, don't come a knockin'.

My vote for worst RPG hasn't even been published yet, so I think I'll remain blissfully neutral.

 

[Crothian]

Personally, I think the right group of people can make any system good. Plus having someone who can explain it help. That was one of the major problems with Champions for me. Only one guy knew it and he couldn't explain things at all. THat and he was helping all six of us make characters at the same time. It was way to confusing.

Some of the games people have mentioned (Recon, Rifts, WEG Star Wars) I've enjoyed not so much because of the game, but becasue of the group. The system is a means to an ends, it's the group that will make or break it for me.

 

[Col_Pladoh]

Re: Re: Worst RPG Ever?

Hate to say it, but...

"Cyborg Commando" by E Gary Gygax.

Heh!

I figured that would come up. I wonder why it is that the names of Frank Mentzer, and Kim Mohan, who wrote 90% of that system are never included in the credits?

Guess it's to even out things when Dave Arneson is mentioned for D&D, which by his own admission he didn't write one word of...


Gary

 

[Particle_Man]

I was going to go for either "Fantasy Wargamer" (maybe "Fantasy Wargaming"?) for its extreme sexism (this was a one-harback deal that tried to one-up D&D with "realistic" views of medieval life and magic. It had a good list of saints, but why would anyone want to play a female character in this system is beyond me), or DEADEARTH (not based on any personal experience, but purely on a VERY witty review that totally trashed it), but then I saw this:

"BOW BEFORE F.A.T.A.L.

Senzar was hard to read and all, but on the other hand, it didn't have a "vaginal circumfrence" table.

BOW DOWN BOW DOWN BOW DOWN"

Vaginal Circumference Table? I bow before F.A.T.A.L.

 

[Randolpho]

Re: Re: Re: Worst RPG Ever?

Heh!

I figured that would come up. I wonder why it is that the names of Frank Mentzer, and Kim Mohan, who wrote 90% of that system are never included in the credits?

Guess it's to even out things when Dave Arneson is mentioned for D&D, which by his own admission he didn't write one word of...


Gary

Yeah... on the Dungeons and Dragons movie DVD, he's mentioned as "the" creator of D&D, not the co-creator on more than one occasion...

 

[Orco42]

I vote for Spawn of Fashan.

But the laugh value for making a character is its saving grace.

 

[Cedric]

In my experience, the people who don't like Champions, are the people who are too lazy to have actually read the book and understand it.

I'm not trying to make generic offensive statements, I'm just supporting one of my favorite and imo the best RPG out there.

It's the only system in the world where you absolutely can make any character you want to make...anything.

From Superheroes to Sorcerors, you can do it in Champions.

Now, on to the topic...worst RPG ever. Even though I like the White Wolf World of Darkness..I'll pass on both Changeling and Wraith.

I have friends who love both systems, but they are just not my cup of tea.

Cedric

p.s. Gary...no one has mentioned Mythos yet...and I won't say it's the worst, cause I had so much fun playing it with my last group. But those 6 easy steps of character creation have to be the most grueling torture I've ever been through in the name of entertainment (except for seeing Mortal Kombat: Annihilation in the theatre).