WotC acknowledges 4th Edition Not for Everyone?

[Merlin the Tuna]

wait wait wait...

are you guys saying it's not the size of your mini that matters?

Minis? Pah! I've been using maxis for years!

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[Scribble]

Minis? Pah! I've been using maxis for years!

...Wait a minute. That didn't come out right.

urge to make joke involving tuna... overwhelming...

 

[justanobody]

You are correct, if you are unbending your minis to see how tall they are, you have more than a slight problem.

RK

There are quite a few tens of thousands modders and mini enthusiasts that want a word with you.

Have you seen the horrible pose the Maulfighter is in?

 

[Obryn]

There are quite a few tens of thousands modders and mini enthusiasts that want a word with you.

Have you seen the horrible pose the Maulfighter is in?

OK, get them over here, then.

I would love to hear how the "unbent height" of a pre-painted D&D mini (or the use of dice or M&Ms to represent kobolds and orcs) detracts from my enjoyment of D&D.

-O

 

[rkwoodard]

I apologize

There are quite a few tens of thousands modders and mini enthusiasts that want a word with you.

Have you seen the horrible pose the Maulfighter is in?

Justanobody,

Sorry, I should not have engaged you like that. I am certainly not a modder or mini enthusiast. D&D is my game of choice because I can play it with Heroscape and Skittles, and have an absolute blast.

So, enjoy the level of detail and technical precision that you like, and we will just avoid each others gaming tables.


I did not put down my edition of choice cause I will play or dm any edition and have a blast doing so.
RK

 

[jaerdaph]

Minis? Pah! I've been using maxis for years!

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LOL! You win the thread!

 

[billd91]

How is it that model railroads have been able to do it right for years, but other people cannot?

Because making a precise scale model of an engine/car/building is exactly what model railroading is about. The same cannot be said about fantasy RPG miniatures, which are a bit more about just being artsy as well as finding reasonable representations of our own PCs and NPCs. They're not and never have been about precision.

 

[Treebore]

Because making a precise scale model of an engine/car/building is exactly what model railroading is about. The same cannot be said about fantasy RPG miniatures, which are a bit more about just being artsy as well as finding reasonable representations of our own PCs and NPCs. They're not and never have been about precision.

Well, its important in model RR because if the trucks on those engines and cars are not done to the scale of your tracks, it don't work. Period.

I find that as long as the scale of the mini's are not off too much they still work just fine, in terms of doing the job that matters to me. Both in model RR and in RPG mini's. BTW, I am a HO scale model RRer.

 

[justanobody]

Justanobody,

Sorry, I should not have engaged you like that. I am certainly not a modder or mini enthusiast. D&D is my game of choice because I can play it with Heroscape and Skittles, and have an absolute blast.

So, enjoy the level of detail and technical precision that you like, and we will just avoid each others gaming tables.


I did not put down my edition of choice cause I will play or dm any edition and have a blast doing so.
RK

It isn't that you have to want precision minis, but for years many people have been looking for ONE company to make a uniform standard within its own product line.

Measuring inches out in older editions and having a mini well off the map scale makes using minis hard.

M&Ms(Skittles) work better, and a reason why actual wargames don't allow for proxy by a smaller piece, but modding must be equal to or greater the size of the original so you don't get an unfair advantage where there is no grid or squares to "lock" your pieces into for placement.

Like flanking from 3 sides and still having 3 open sides on the front with hex maps...

Plus you can eat what you kill with snack minis.

So it is fine if you don't want to worry with minis at all or mix and match minis and snacks, but for those that have helped keep minis alive throughout the video gaming years, then it is high time someone just tried to work to some scale...meaning dwarves should not be taller than humans.

Old Mage Knight minis work good for D&D as well, and were not too bad for scale on the D&D races, but the dang Clix bases are too big for the 1' grid.

I would just like to see me game of choice finally get to scale with its self.

I don't care what the scale is, but pick one you[they] can maintain.

For those wanting to talk to minis people there are plenty of sites from minipainter that Scott mentions to cool mini or not, and a few more, but I don't read Spanish and Russian.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Because making a precise scale model of an engine/car/building is exactly what model railroading is about. The same cannot be said about fantasy RPG miniatures, which are a bit more about just being artsy as well as finding reasonable representations of our own PCs and NPCs. They're not and never have been about precision.

There seems also be a difference in the ultimate purpose of these two types of models.

A railway model is supposed to look like the real thing, but on a smaller scale. It is like a 3D portrait. Relative sizes matter.

The minis on a terrain tile or generally a board game is more to establish the relative positioning of stuff. Inconsistent scales don't really matter for that purpose, since we can translate that to the real scale. What matters a little more to some is that the mini used looks similar to their character - but that doesn#t require a particular scale towards other minis, only to itself (as in "well proportioned" perhaps). And even that isn't alwas important. Sometimes a chess piece and a monopoly piece could represent a character - as long as it fits on your map and you can use it to convey the positions.