D&D General WotC: Novels & Non-5E Lore Are Officially Not Canon

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At a media press briefing last week, WotC's Jeremey Crawford clarified what is and is not canon for D&D.

"For many years, we in the Dungeons & Dragons RPG studio have considered things like D&D novels, D&D video games, D&D comic books, as wonderful expressions of D&D storytelling and D&D lore, but they are not canonical for the D&D roleplaying game."


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"If you’re looking for what’s official in the D&D roleplaying game, it’s what appears in the products for the roleplaying game. Basically, our stance is that if it has not appeared in a book since 2014, we don’t consider it canonical for the games."

2014 is the year that D&D 5th Edition launched.

He goes on to say that WotC takes inspiration from past lore and sometimes adds them into official lore.

Over the past five decades of D&D, there have been hundreds of novels, more than five editions of the game, about a hundred video games, and various other items such as comic books, and more. None of this is canon. Crawford explains that this is because they "don’t want DMs to feel that in order to run the game, they need to read a certain set of novels."

He cites the Dragonlance adventures, specifically.
 

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I guess we could agree pre-5th Ed is "secondary canon", this means it is canon but when the new books said the opposite.

Retcons may be neccesary, but we have to take care to avoid a "jumping the shark" effect. Even we ourself can't agree totally when a retcon is right.

Lots of Game-Masters or DM reboot totally the settings to avoid the surprised to be spoilered by the players who have readen all the metaplots in the fandom wikis.

I don't reject the reboot but I am watching some famous franchises are being being rebooted in the main media and these don't work very well.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
You can still share in your enjoyment of canon and linked together stories and the mythos of the Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance by going back to those stories and books yourself.

Like come on, why are we getting so dramatic? You literally still have the books! You still have the stories! They're just over now, and will probably be reimagined.

Spider-Man and Superman and all other superheroes have been rebooted countless times. You still have your old canons to cherish. Its the same here. Its a new Forgotten Realms universe, with new ideas, for a new audience, based off old ideas. If that's too far for you, you still have books and COMMUNITIES (including this one!) to discuss that stuff at! Most of the original authors are still alive! You can still contact everyone involved with your favorite myths!
Comics are a good comparison. Despite the number of times Superman has been rebooted, retconned, or updated . . . the basics of Superman's life, personality, and powers hasn't changed much over the years. He's still recognizably Superman. And DC regularly reaches back into past stories to bring forth elements into the current stories, sometimes as is, sometimes with changes.
 

I'm not "making fun" of anyone: I have pointed out that this is what WotC has been doing for 7 years already, and pointed out that, yes, this sort of canon-centric approach is tied to gatekeeping. That's not a joke, but a sober historical judgement.

They never made novels uncanon in FR before, they were sloppy with canon, but they never took it this far. It is gating keeping alright, they want old school fans and creators gone while they milk the corpse of FR.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
They never made novels uncanon in FR before, they were sloppy with canon, but they never took it this far. It is gating keeping alright, they want old school fans and creators gone while they milk the corpse of FR.
No, saying that there is no metaplot, novels & other media are just stories, it is your game which matters is the exact and precise opposite of gatekeeping.
 


AmerginLiath

Adventurer
Original vs. Kelvinverse-timeline Dragonlance. That’s what happens when you let kender play too often with the Device of Time Journeying…

(I’d personally just attribute any radically-changed Dragonlance to be the answer to “what took Krynn’s place in Krynnspace when Takhisis stole the world away to the dragon’s crystal sphere?” and let both exist in the multiverse)
 

Reynard

Legend
Comics are a good comparison. Despite the number of times Superman has been rebooted, retconned, or updated . . . the basics of Superman's life, personality, and powers hasn't changed much over the years. He's still recognizably Superman. And DC regularly reaches back into past stories to bring forth elements into the current stories, sometimes as is, sometimes with changes.
And when DC's "New 52" came around :sick: you saw a lot of previous stories get erased and a similar reaction. And before that, Crisis on Infinite Earths did the same. Superman was recognizable, but his world was irrevocably changed and for some people, particularly people that grew up Superman, that was a tough experience.
 


RFB Dan

Podcast host, 6-edition DM, and guy with a pulse.
Comics are a good comparison. Despite the number of times Superman has been rebooted, retconned, or updated . . . the basics of Superman's life, personality, and powers hasn't changed much over the years. He's still recognizably Superman. And DC regularly reaches back into past stories to bring forth elements into the current stories, sometimes as is, sometimes with changes.
And on the other side of the comparison is Doctor Who, where there's so much canon that no matter WHAT they do on the show a portion of the viewers will complain incessantly online because of one thing from a season back in 1973. (and FWIW, Doctor Who has never been really good at keeping themselves on the right side of canon to begin with)
 

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