D&D 3E/3.5 WotC Rejecting 3.5 Writers?

[Wicht]

Wotc and paizo and the others are companies, which have obligations to these creatures called share holders.

Actually, Paizo is not a publically owned company. If it was, I would buy stock.

 

[jimmifett]

Actually, Paizo is not a publically owned company. If it was, I would buy stock.

You do not have to be publicly traded to have shareholders. A privately held company can still distribute shares to others in any way they see fit. If no shares are distributed, then the owner retains 100% of the shares, and is thus a share holder and has illithid lawyers working to protect his investment against, yes, even his own desires if the lawyers see them as misguided (just to a much lesser extend of "here's how to cover your own butt").

 

[The_Gneech]

Hold on a moment. I have never seen James Jacobs, Erik Mona or any of the other fine people of Paizo's be anything but professional in whatever they say about WotC and the people that work there. And I bet you can't find anywhere they have been hostile either. As far as I know, the folks at both companies respect the other and there is a good deal of crossover in their talent pools (going both ways).

Just what I was thinking. All the hostility I've seen has been from forumgoers, not Paizonians.

-The Gneech

 

[BryonD]

Here's my guess (and its only a guess) - we know that Mouseferatu is a freelancer who has access to the 4E ruleset. If Nick were going to do freelance 4E work for WoTC, they'd have to give him the rules as well, and since he's an employee of Paizo, they didn't feel comfortable with that.

In the 3E days, Paizo wasn't a competitor. They produced Dragon and Dungeon on behalf of WotC. Their big hardbacks were approved by WotC. Also, freelancers working for other 3E companies were, in theory, pulling on the same oars. They weren't producing work for a entire competing ruleset.

Paizo upped its profile as a direct competitor by announcing Pathfinder, and this is one of the logical outcomes.

Yeah, I think those are fair statements.

But my point is (if this thread is at all reasonably accurate) that this is all a result of WotC's change in attitude.

You are putting the responsibility at Paizo's feet, but if you continue with the logical outcomes you presented, WotC made it harder (with the hint of impossible) for Paizo to move forward in the old "pulling the same oars" manner. There change is a logical outcome of WotC's behavior. (And that last part is true regardless of the OP being right or wrong)

 

[SteveC]

Of course... about 75% of Red Hand of Doom was done by a "Paizo Guy"...

The worst thing about that was that I knew it, too! I KNEW I should have checked it out. I knew there was a reason I liked it.

Seriously, though, I believe that the skills that make a great game designer and those that make a great adventure writer are very different, almost incompatible. If I were WotC, I'd make Paizo my partner in adventure development and then everyone would win. But then that's unlikely to happen, it would seem.

--Steve

 

[Vempyre]

I agree that this thread shouldn't exist

 

[Joshua Randall]

I think instead of deleting this thread, a correction ought to be appended to the original post, and then it ought to be locked and stickied.

 

[Haffrung Helleyes]

And more knives come out! Don't let this go for tat ...... (even though a flame war between Paizo guys and the 4e devs would be pretty interesting to watch.

I really hate how this segmentation of the market is forcing many posters to be inimical towards whichever particular corporation's products they think they'll enjoy the most.

Both sides are acting as profit-maximizers with a different hand to play.

C.I.D.

How is an author taking credit for his own work 'going tat for tat?'

Ken

 

[Orcus]

And in other news, today Clark Peterson of Necromancer games denounced the internet itself, saying it's how "crappy information gets out."

What exactly does this mean for Necromancer Games in regards to PDF publishing, the DDI, and EN World?

Very funny

You know I am all about pdf publishing. Necro got its start that way.

What I dont like is the crazy rumor mongering and hearsay upon hearsay stuff that gets out and then people say "hey, didnt I read somewhere that Wizards fired all their employees who had ever read a d20 product?"

This thread, and its irresponsible initial post, are a perfect example of that.

Luckily, Nick came in and cleared it up.

But I guarantee you that in a few months when someone is bagging on Wizards again, someone else will jump in with "yeah, and a few months back didnt they fire Nick Logue!"

We really should know better. I'm glad to see the OP realize his mistake, at least.

 

[Orcus]

I think instead of deleting this thread, a correction ought to be appended to the original post, and then it ought to be locked and stickied.

+1

Agreed 100%. It is the only responsible thing to do.