WotC Responds!!!

[Tsyr]

Nothing personal but this arguement of yours is not thought out at all.

By your logic we should immediatly ban:

alcohol
cigarettes
playboy

As well as anything else you have to be a certain age to purchase because somewhere out there we might find an older person willing to buy it for a younger person.


Thanks for playing, try again later please.

Hey, we might as well just ban sex in general while we are at it...

BU, I agree with you some on point 4. The rest of your points, frankly, I find silly. You're stressing *far* too much on the 'real world' implications of this... But DnD already teaches us theft, murder, etc, yet I don't see it causing massive effects on the people playing the game. This is, IMO, no different.

But hey, do what your heart tells you. Start a petition. But write to the right people. You have not one bit of proof that Hasbro/WotC is "behind" this project... in fact, they have publicly said they are not. It's fine if you want to have a conspiracy theory, but at least send your complaints to the right party. Otherwise it's just harrassment.

 

[Tsyr]

What about that? You don't need to ban any of these to take steps to keep them away from minors. Alcohol and cigarettes require ID as proof of age and has some very stiff penalties for non-compliers. Playboy is often kept in racks behind the checkout stand.

So, your point was? (Without creating a false dichotomy this time.)

As loath as I am to agree with Doc on anything D), I have to on this one, and it's the same with movies and violent video games. We can say all we want "We are preventing minors from getting these things", but when I was in highschool (3 years ago), your average freshman had easy access to beer, tobbaco, pornography, R-rated movies, M-rated video games, etc. You can say they are out of their hands by age-restrictions and such, but they aren't.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

What about that? You don't need to ban any of these to take steps to keep them away from minors. Alcohol and cigarettes require ID as proof of age and has some very stiff penalties for non-compliers. Playboy is often kept in racks behind the checkout stand.

So, your point was? (Without creating a false dichotomy this time.)

That banning something purely because some people who are not supposed to get something might be able to is stupid?

 

[Psion]

As loath as I am to agree with Doc on anything D), I have to on this one, and it's the same with movies and violent video games. We can say all we want "We are preventing minors from getting these things", but when I was in highschool (3 years ago), your average freshman had easy access to beer, tobbaco, pornography, R-rated movies, M-rated video games, etc. You can say they are out of their hands by age-restrictions and such, but they aren't.

1) That still doesn't make the call for action = "banning" as DocM suggests.
2) Just what are you suggesting? That we really need to crack down on the sale of these products to minors? It's never going to be perfect; is that enough reason to conclude that all such efforts are wasted? I think not.

 

[Belen]

I am not advocating that we ban anything. I am saying that we can add this element to our games without an organized set of rules. I am fairly certain that most games do not run sexual encounters. I mean, which encounter is more likely.

Tavern maid: Yes, Oh Paladin, I will spend the night with you.
DM: k, the next morning, Taric seems happy with himself.

or

(Let roleplay it out all- in front of the whole group!)

Tavern maid: Wait, Mr. high and Mighty (She slips on her mask and pulls out her whip): You have been a Baaaad boy.
Paladin: Spank me, wench, I need some penance. I work with a rogue!


Yes, makes for a great comic routine, but not really great in-game encounters. I can see where a book on love, romance, childrearing etc could be useful to characters. But erotica!?

Dave

 

[Psion]

That banning (snip)

Gotta stop you right there. Two words in and you still are evoking the false dichotomy. Try again.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Gotta stop you right there. Two words in and you still are evoking the false dichotomy. Try again.

Your opinion not mine. We dont agree so I se no further reason to talk about it.

 

[Psion]

Your opinion not mine. We dont agree so I se no further reason to talk about it.

I don't ever remember stating my opinion on this matter, so don't pretend that's what it's about.

If you are unwilling to recognize or answer too the fundamental flaw in your argument, go right ahead. Disagree with an argument nobody is making. Just don't be surprised when nobody cares.

 

[cildarith]

I will personally boycott any game store that stocks this product.

I will urge others to do likewise.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

I will personally boycott any game store that stocks this product.

I will urge others to do likewise.

Good for you.