[WOTC] Revised Corebooks for July confirmed with info

[kenjib]

What to do with the old PHB if it's still in fine condition? The trash can?

 

[LoPaC]

Re: Disgusted!

I just heard that WotC will be releasing new Core Rule-books for D&D. I can not believe it!

Here in South Africa, the books cost me a whole lot more than what my US- and UK- counterparts would pay for them. With our bad exchange rate ($1 = R10), how would you like to pay $300 for the Player's Guide alone?

Well, it is not as bad as that, but it gets the point across! I just completed my collection (all three core books) and now I have to go out and buy another set of them?

All I can say is that I am disgusted! Next time, WotC, think about places beyond the USA - and loyal fans who have been playing D&D long before you were a twinkle in Hasbro's eyes! Your actions are killing us out here in South Africa.

I fell for the revised Star Wars Core Rulebook - but this time I am sure that I'll give WotC a huge miss....

Highly disgusted!
Blue Crane

Thats what I'm talking about! Its all about making their pockets bigger. And all this about "OOOOOHHHH!!! 320 Pages !! OOOHHHH!!!" "New" feats, spells, and the such. Additional stuff from splat books and campaign settings, that we already have, is what it is. No, no ones holding a gun to my head, telling me to buy these books. But this is where its going. New books, updated rules, revised characters. Gonna havta get them at some point, or the monk and ranger I talk about aint gonna be the same ones you talk about. Thats why this sucks.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Re: Re: Disgusted!

Ooooohhhh!!!!!

Then don't buy it!

Talk about a stupid gripe. Your old book will continue to function.

Thats what I'm talking about! Its all about making their pockets bigger. And all this about "OOOOOHHHH!!! 320 Pages !! OOOHHHH!!!" "New" feats, spells, and the such. Additional stuff from splat books and campaign settings, that we already have, is what it is. No, no ones holding a gun to my head, telling me to buy these books. But this is where its going. New books, updated rules, revised characters. Gonna havta get them at some point, or the monk and ranger I talk about aint gonna be the same ones you talk about. Thats why this is sucks.

 

[the Jester]

If there are major changes to pc tactics or preperation required by it (i.e. haste is now 4th level or whatever) it becomes a virtual must-have unless the changes are published on the website or in Dragon. That would suck; I don't want to set a precedent where it's okay to put out a new core rules set every three years.

I'm with LoPac here- if there are a few major changes, is it worth another $30? I'd tend towards no. But is it essential to know the rules so everyone's game is compatible? I tend towards yes on that one.

I hope the changes are mostly cosmetic- I don't think the bard needs changing. I'd like to see more customization of monks and rangers built into the rules, but the dmg already talks about modifying classes.

I hope everything new is an optional rule, that way I won't feel "behind the times" if I pass the RPH up.

 

[KenM]

I really hope Wizards does plan to release a new "core" set of books with DnD, like they do with magic: the gathering. To do that with a RPG is just dumb.

 

[Bagpuss]

No one is going to force you to buy them, personally I've been happy with the PHB, DMG and the MM (well maybe not the jumbled mess that is the MM, but anyway you get the idea) so I don't see a need to rush out and buy them.

Will my 3E D&D game suddenly stop working because there is a new version out?

My 2E game still seems to be working okay last time I check (which was last Friday, we have a God level game that would be too much of a headache to convert), and I'm still getting good use out of those rulebooks.

If your game is fun now, it will continue to be fun when these new books, if you buy them or not.

What is your problem? Someone might have a 'newer' rulebook than you? Is it basically envy?

 

[John Crichton]

You know what else? If they do revisions to the classes, e-Tools will be out of synch. *sigh*

Well, they do have 6 months or so to patch it.

I'm happy about the upcoming revisions. I have to buy a new PHB anyway so mind as well have some cool changes in it. Also, with all the added DMG pages I'm looking forward to that first. And the MM could use some better formatting. I'm happy.

 

[MerakSpielman]

Originally posted by Swack-Iron
You know what else? If they do revisions to the classes, e-Tools will be out of synch. *sigh*

Well, they do have 6 months or so to patch it.

I'm happy about the upcoming revisions. I have to buy a new PHB anyway so mind as well have some cool changes in it. Also, with all the added DMG pages I'm looking forward to that first. And the MM could use some better formatting. I'm happy.

Who's to say that this update might be part of the suspected dispute between Fluid and WoTC?

 

[coyote6]

I'm amused that given the rantings about errors & errata to correct those errors in various products, and the general acceptance of said rantings, that anybody is surprised or doesn't understand why people would be annoyed at having to buy whole new revised books three years after launch.

I think the annoyance is in part caused because there will be (allegedly) new material, and new changes, in the revised versions. Thus, one may feel as if they "need" the books, so they can be "up to date". The revised books may be backwards compatible with old sourcebooks, but will new sourcebooks be compatible with the old core rulebooks?

If not, then I think it's a very curious decision, because it looks like WotC is risking fracturing their market again. v3.1 or 3.5 or whatever they call it, vs. v3.0.

I look forward to hearing more from A.V. about this.

I also wonder how retailers & distributors will feel about this; I imagine that the more word of the revised editions spreads, the more trouble they'll have moving the old versions. Last couple of game shops I've went to had plenty of copies of the current, soon to be obsolescent, rulebooks.

Hmm, the last bookstores I went to had a few copies; are they going to be returning them?

For myself, it annoyed me when other games (wave to White Wolf, folks!) did the "new version after 2-3 years" thing, too. But mainly, I think it's just that (a) I recently (last year) bought second copies of the core rulebooks to use as a pooled resource for my group, and (b) I've just been grumpy & out of sorts the last couple of days in general.

 

[LoPaC]

Re: Re: Re: Disgusted!

Then don't buy it!



Maybe you didnt catch the part about eventually having to get one. Here, Ill copy/paste it for ya, just incase.

Gonna havta get them at some point, or the monk and ranger I talk about aint gonna be the same ones you talk about.

You can add revised spells and feats to that also

There ya go.