WotC Settings schedule - an alternate idea

4E Settings - what do you want to see?

  • Only old classics

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Mainly old classics with one or two new settings

    Votes: 16 25.4%
  • An even mixture of old and new

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Mainly new settings with one or two old classics

    Votes: 8 12.7%
  • Only new settings

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Don't care, I'll buy whatever comes out

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Don't care, I won't buy any settings

    Votes: 8 12.7%

Mercurius

Legend
(Inspired by the 4E Dragonlance thread)

Wizards has claimed that they plan on putting out one new setting each year, with Eberron up next in 2009. After that there is only speculation, with "old classics" likely as well as the likelihood of at least one new setting.

Given the previous spans between editions (1ed in '77, 2ed in '89, 3ed in '00, 4ed in '08), let's assume that 5E wouldn't come out until 2015 at the earliest. That gives six more settings for Wizards to give official treatment to after FR and Eberron, in 2010-15. The most likely "old classics" would be, in no particular order: Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Spelljammer, Planescape, and Greyhawk. I see "secondary" settings such as Al-Qadim, Ravenloft, Birthright, etc, as less likely to receive full treatment; one would assume that Rokugan or Kara-Tur will be covered in Oriental Adventures, whenever that comes out; I would also scratch Planescape off the list, as it will likely (hopefully) be covered in this December's Manual of the Planes.

So we've got five old classics--Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Spelljammer, and Greyhawk--and six+ years. Is Wizards going to use up almost all of their "setting slots" on recycled settings? I certainly hope not...why not bring in something new? And even more so, why not bring out a setting that was designed around Points of Light rather than "pointsoflightified"? At this point it will already be two years (2010) before Wizards could put out a "true" Points of Light setting, if they follow their communicated schedule. I can see how, on one hand, they'd want to 4edify the two most popular 3.5 settings--FR and Eberron--before going forward with anything new, but with speculations of Dragonlance or Dark Sun in 2010 and/or 2011, it seems like it would be "missing the boat" if they really plan on putting off a new setting until 2012 or beyond.

What I'm hoping--and suggesting, if Mr. Rouse is listening--is to stratch the "one setting a year" plan and increase that to something like three per two years, even two per year, with one old classic being covered and one new setting, or alternating new and old every six to nine months.

It would be a shame, in my view, to focus setting attention on old classics. I would like to see 4ed versions of some of the old classics, but not at the expense of new settings. I mean, sometimes it is OK to just let these settings go and remain artifacts of older editions of D&D (if you dress grandpa up in the latest fashions he usually ends up looking kinda silly). There is something awkward about 4edifying everything; not only is it akin to fitting round pegs into square wholes but it smacks of a certain kind of creative lassitude.

My guess is that the schedule beyond Eberron is tentative and Wizards of the Coast is still trying to test the waters, see what people want; it certainly has seemed that Wizards, as a company, keeps an ear to the internet wind, and I give them kudos for that. If so, my vote is: Bring on the new, Wizards!
 

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I would LOVE to see a well done GH book (even though I don't think shoehorning 4E into it is a good idea at all).

I think Mystara would be a much better fit for 4E, and I'd like to see that.

I'd enjoy seeing PS or DS, or RL, but I'm not clamoring for them.

I like Eberron and I think out of estabished settings it's by far the best 4E fit, will be glad to see that.

All that said, I think WOTC needs to move on- Away from GH, away from FR, away from -insert TSR creation of old here- All of those settings have sooooo much baggage both in game-and out of game. Let them RIP, respectfully.

I think completely new settings or sufficiently generic (like the core assumption) supplements are the way to go. At times I'd like to see a setting book based on the core world (DMG- Fallcrest/ Nentir Vale), but then again, I'd rather not- I'm having way too much fun taking the ball and running with the barebones- I'm afraid a plethora of detail would ruin the whole thing.
 

Updating old classics through Dragon Magazine is an option. After all, they're going to do this with Ravenloft. This is how I would like them to touch old settings.

Otherwise, please, only new settings. It probably won't happen, but I can hope.
 

I'd like to see a single book taking the core concepts of Birthright (players ruling countries, bloodlines etc) and applying 4e assumptions and mechanics to them.

Not an update to 2e Birthright, but a reimagining - what if Birthright was being written now, with 4e as the game it was intended for?

I'm sure many things would stay the same, but it could be changed around a little. I'm also sure that with some work from the fan community some of the (probable) original problems with the setting could be ironed out, too.

Other than that, and assuming Planescape stuff gets folded into the Core undefined setting, I'd also prefer to see new things that old things recycled.
 


I'd like to see a single book taking the core concepts of Birthright (players ruling countries, bloodlines etc) and applying 4e assumptions and mechanics to them.

Same here. A "Book of Regency" would be cool. You could do "Scion" as a multiclass only class, like Spellscarred, and have a number of bloodlines with powers that can be swapped.

Rules for countries could be similar to rules for characters, with country "classes" and such.
 

of old settings the only one I really expect as a a full rework of the exisiting mythos is Dragonlance. As 4th or 5th setting out.
The only other 'classic' setting I really expect is Dark Sun, (out 3rd likely) but would be a reboot. (Like Ultimate Spider-man kinda) Boiling DS down to essential parts and re-building it for 4th edition.
I'd like to see a few all-new all-different settings too. A full on fantasy POL setting might be fun, but probably not really much more than any of us expect.
 

of old settings the only one I really expect as a a full rework of the exisiting mythos is Dragonlance. As 4th or 5th setting out.
The only other 'classic' setting I really expect is Dark Sun, (out 3rd likely) but would be a reboot. (Like Ultimate Spider-man kinda) Boiling DS down to essential parts and re-building it for 4th edition.
I'd like to see a few all-new all-different settings too. A full on fantasy POL setting might be fun, but probably not really much more than any of us expect.
 

I think that 3 settings every 2 years is do-able, both from WotC's point of view, and from a customer point of view. Two per year would be interesting, but I think people might balk at "setting proliferation".

I'd love to see Greyhawk and Brithright done as 4e settings- past that I think we should have new settings. A strictly PoL setting that was designed around 4e like Eberron was around 3e would be brilliant. I've noticed 4e has a darker and more brutal feel to it, both in the mechanics and artwork itself. 4e star pact warlocks especially remind me of alienists or magic practitioners from Lovecraft's works, so a 4e PoL setting that has a strong Lovecraftian vibe and lots of Far Realmsy goodness would be a HUGE win in my book.
 

You know, in reading this thread I realized - I really don't care. Unless there's some kind of gold mine of brilliance, be it fluff or crunch, I'm really not looking for *another* setting thanks.
Planescape material, Ravenloft material, and Spelljammer material (with Mystara a close second) - all of those settings interest me, but they do that without shiny new books. Whatever they did to the new editions of said settings would have to be pretty frelling awesome to get me to purchase.

And as with anything else that gets my dollar - setting reboots or ginormous retcons of continuity pretty much make my dollars go elsewhere.

A brand new setting - something I've not seen before? That might interest me however.
 
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