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D&D 5E WotC's Nathan Stewart Teases New D&D Setting Book in 2019

No real details, other than denying that it will be Spelljammer, but in the latest Spoilers & Swag episode Stewart stated straight up that another hardcover setting book is coming in 2019:

"Nathan Stewart, the senior director of Dungeons & Dragons and Avalon Hill, made the announcement on his monthly "Spoilers & Swag" Twitchcast yesterday. 'Next year for our annual releases I can confirm there will be a setting book,' he said. 'A new setting book. A book that we have not created that is for a D&D setting.'"

I'd speculate, given the Settings mentioned in the recent marketing survey and what is listed in the DMsGuild, that the likely options are from the following, given we got Magic this year and Stewart has previously said they are not working on a new setting right now:

- Dark Sun
- Dragonlance
- Eberron
- Greyhawk
- Planescape
- Ravenloft

https://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/11/03/dungeons-and-dragons-new-campaign-setting-book-2019/
 

lkj

Adventurer
I imagine we'll see soon enough.

They tested Ravnica subclasses in January and April and the first races in May then August. If they're doing a campaign setting for the November release (or an extra book) and they're doing subclasses, we might be able to guess based on what they release in the next month.

It might be telling for example if a UA between now and spring had psionics, as Mike has telegraphed pretty hard that he thought they were necessary for Dark Sun. Not that I'd say it's definitive, but it would create fun speculation fodder.

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It might be telling for example if a UA between now and spring had psionics, as Mike has telegraphed pretty hard that he thought they were necessary for Dark Sun. Not that I'd say it's definitive, but it would create fun speculation fodder.

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Given they did Eberron with the artificer only 65% ready, they could do Dark Sun with an idea how psionics worked but without the class ready. So long as they have an idea how the mechanics will work, they can do the monsters easily enough.
 

epithet

Explorer
NONE of this is written into either setting at any point! Not in setting-specific rules (like Dark Sun), Not explicitly (like Wayfarers Guide to Eberron), and not set by the writing style of a single author (like Dragonlance) - because both settings have many authors.

What you are recounting are impressions gained from games set in those settings - simply the product of how your DM envisioned them.
Allow me to introduce you to the Forgotten Realms Style Guide. The very first element it describes is the appropriate tone for Forgotten Realms adventures and products.

Tone

The Forgotten Realms is a hopeful setting. The good guys will eventually win. This hopeful tone
sets the Forgotten Realms apart from settings like Greyhawk (which is cynical) and Dragonlance
(which is a setting of romance and tragedy). While not every moment of a story or image in art
should be hopeful (the villains need their time in the spotlight, and bad things do happen), keep this
tone in mind.​

This is part of a document package published by Wizards of the Coast, and made available on the DMs Guild. You may not like or agree with the WotC take on their various settings, but your argument that the tone of these settings amounts to no more than "simply the product of how your DM envisioned them" is clearly in error.
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
Allow me to introduce you to the Forgotten Realms Style Guide. The very first element it describes is the appropriate tone for Forgotten Realms adventures and products.

Tone

The Forgotten Realms is a hopeful setting. The good guys will eventually win. This hopeful tone
sets the Forgotten Realms apart from settings like Greyhawk (which is cynical) and Dragonlance
(which is a setting of romance and tragedy). While not every moment of a story or image in art
should be hopeful (the villains need their time in the spotlight, and bad things do happen), keep this
tone in mind.​

This is part of a document package published by Wizards of the Coast, and made available on the DMs Guild. You may not like or agree with the WotC take on their various settings, but your argument that the tone of these settings amounts to no more than "simply the product of how your DM envisioned them" is clearly in error.

Thanks for posting that.

As an aside, I don't care for the guide's notion that ". . . magic items of all kinds have specific appearances that do not change. A potion of healing or a vorpal sword always looks the same regardless of who made it."

I think I understand why they did it (simplicity, like most of their decisions), but I enjoy giving the magic items in my game different appearances and aesthetic qualities. I enjoy the world-building aspect of a healing potion coming in a crystal vial when made by elves, an iron flask when made by dwarves, a leather skin (like a small waterskin) when made by the sirens, and a ceramic bottle when made by goblins.
 

Mercurius

Legend
I could see them following the same pattern as 2018:
*One PDF guide to an old setting, that can be updated and eventually open for POD
*One hardcover of a new setting that hasn't been officially covered for D&D, either another Magic world or something else

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this is what they do for the next few years. I do think that most of those hoping for a full hardcover treatment of their preferred classic setting are going to be disappointed.
 

tessarji

First Post
Given recent publicity for Ravenloft and Nentir Vale stream games, I'd submit the odds on seeing a 2019 setting hardcover like this:

Dawn War/Nentir Vale: 7-2
Ravenloft: 4-1
Magic The Gathering related: 6-1
Planescape: 8-1
Dark Sun: 9-1
Dragonlance related

  • Ansalon: 10-1
  • Taladas: 5000-1
Mystara related

  • Known World: 15-1
  • Hollow World: 100-1
  • Savage Coast: 1000-1
  • Blackmoor: 1000000-1
Eberron: 35-1
Greyhawk: 50-1
Birthright: 80-1
Forgotten Realms related

  • Kara-Tur: 80-1
  • Al-Qadim: 200-1
  • Maztica: 500-1
  • The Horde: 1000000-1
  • Malatra: 1000000-1
  • Other FR setting: 12-1
Spelljammer: 1000-1
(The Field): 1000-1

  • Council of Wyrms
  • Dragon Fist
  • Ghostwalk
  • Jakandor
  • Kingdoms of Kalamar
  • Lankhmar
  • Mahasarpa
  • Pelinore
  • Rokugan
  • Thunder Rift
  • Wilderlands of High Fantasy
  • Warcraft
  • Diablo
 
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gyor

Legend
Given recent publicity for Ravenloft and Nentir Vale stream games, I'd submit the odds on seeing a 2019 setting hardcover like this:

Dawn War/Nentir Vale: 7-2
Ravenloft: 4-1
Magic The Gathering related: 6-1
Planescape: 8-1
Dark Sun: 9-1
Dragonlance related

  • Ansalon: 10-1
  • Taladas: 5000-1
Mystara related

  • Known World: 15-1
  • Hollow World: 100-1
  • Savage Coast: 1000-1
  • Blackmoor: 1000000-1
Eberron: 35-1
Greyhawk: 50-1
Birthright: 80-1
Forgotten Realms related

  • Kara-Tur: 80-1
  • Al-Qadim: 200-1
  • Maztica: 500-1
  • The Horde: 1000000-1
  • Malatra: 1000000-1
  • Other FR setting: 12-1
Spelljammer: 1000-1
(The Field): 1000-1

  • Council of Wyrms
  • Dragon Fist
  • Ghostwalk
  • Jakandor
  • Kingdoms of Kalamar
  • Lankhmar
  • Mahasarpa
  • Pelinore
  • Rokugan
  • Thunder Rift
  • Wilderlands of High Fantasy
  • Warcraft
  • Diablo

Rokugan, Diablo, Warcraft aren't owned by WotC so even 1000 to 1 odds is good, it's a complete 100% certainty it won't be those.

Malatra is apart of Kara Tur, so if it's Kara Tur Malatra will likely be covered.

I think you've rated Ravenloft too high.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Given recent publicity for Ravenloft and Nentir Vale stream games, I'd submit the odds on seeing a 2019 setting hardcover like this:

Dawn War/Nentir Vale: 7-2
Ravenloft: 4-1
Magic The Gathering related: 6-1
Planescape: 8-1
Dark Sun: 9-1
Dragonlance related

  • Ansalon: 10-1
  • Taladas: 5000-1
Mystara related

  • Known World: 15-1
  • Hollow World: 100-1
  • Savage Coast: 1000-1
  • Blackmoor: 1000000-1
Eberron: 35-1
Greyhawk: 50-1
Birthright: 80-1
Forgotten Realms related

  • Kara-Tur: 80-1
  • Al-Qadim: 200-1
  • Maztica: 500-1
  • The Horde: 1000000-1
  • Malatra: 1000000-1
  • Other FR setting: 12-1
Spelljammer: 1000-1
(The Field): 1000-1

  • Council of Wyrms
  • Dragon Fist
  • Ghostwalk
  • Jakandor
  • Kingdoms of Kalamar
  • Lankhmar
  • Mahasarpa
  • Pelinore
  • Rokugan
  • Thunder Rift
  • Wilderlands of High Fantasy
  • Warcraft
  • Diablo

Yeah, I don't think the streaming shows are any indication one way or the other.
 

You know, I wouldn’t have used that word to describe Greyhawk, but it kind-of fits. Considering it was born in the heart of the adversarial game style, it makes sense. I mean, just look at the canonical story of Fraz-Urb’luu, who tricked heroes (the PCs) into releasing him.

Dragonlance is definitely driven by romance and tragedy. The Tanis-Laurana-Kitiara triangle, the burning of Solace. Heck, Lord Soth’s backstory is pretty much just romance and tragedy.

Greyhawk (which is cynical) and
Dragonlance (which is a setting of romance and tragedy).
 

tessarji

First Post
Rokugan, Diablo, Warcraft aren't owned by WotC so even 1000 to 1 odds is good, it's a complete 100% certainty it won't be those.

Malatra is apart of Kara Tur, so if it's Kara Tur Malatra will likely be covered.

I think you've rated Ravenloft too high.

For settings, never say never because of books like this. But Mearls would be committed if he tries to claim that is what he meant by a D&D setting.

The case for ranking Ravenloft high is also based on the fact that CoS is still their most played adventure, and the D&D team still seems deeply conservative about splitting up their fanbase. Ravenloft is far more adaptable for single adventures and probably the least likely to overlap with their central FR setting. For the record I also think it would be a terrible choice, as one good adventure doesn't really indicate sales viability.

Releasing another part of Faerun as a 'new setting' is pretty weak soup as well but I only give it a possibility due to this excessively conservative bent. The Ravnica/Eberron block shows that the tide may be shifting here.

I may also be ranking Dragonlance too low (WotC appears to consider it in their top tier of settings) but that's probably my bias that I really would wish them to NOT do another standard fantasy, highly overwritten setting to stand alongside the Realms.
 

BronzeDragon

Explorer
I would pay solid gold for a Birthright setting book.

Other than that, Planescape, Mystara, Greyhawk or even Dark Sun would pique my interest and I'd certainly buy the book.

Ravenloft would be a toss up, and anything else I would not even bother looking at, specially something related to MtG.
 

jayoungr

Legend
Supporter
As an aside, I don't care for the guide's notion that ". . . magic items of all kinds have specific appearances that do not change. A potion of healing or a vorpal sword always looks the same regardless of who made it."

I think I understand why they did it (simplicity, like most of their decisions), but I enjoy giving the magic items in my game different appearances and aesthetic qualities. I enjoy the world-building aspect of a healing potion coming in a crystal vial when made by elves, an iron flask when made by dwarves, a leather skin (like a small waterskin) when made by the sirens, and a ceramic bottle when made by goblins.
I don't think that's precluded by the style guide. As I read it, what they meant is that a potion of healing will always be red and glittery, not that it always comes in the same kind of bottle.
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
I don't think that's precluded by the style guide. As I read it, what they meant is that a potion of healing will always be red and glittery, not that it always comes in the same kind of bottle.

If that's the case, I don't really care for that either. The bottle it comes in is just one of the aesthetic changes I make to differentiate potions by creator. For instance, the dwarves in my setting hold alcohol in high regard, taking the old Latin saying "in vino vertias" to heart with the belief that the loss of inhibition as you drink reveals who you truly are. Consequently, dwarf potions are generally alcoholic.
 

gyor

Legend
For settings, never say never because of books like this. But Mearls would be committed if he tries to claim that is what he meant by a D&D setting.

The case for ranking Ravenloft high is also based on the fact that CoS is still their most played adventure, and the D&D team still seems deeply conservative about splitting up their fanbase. Ravenloft is far more adaptable for single adventures and probably the least likely to overlap with their central FR setting. For the record I also think it would be a terrible choice, as one good adventure doesn't really indicate sales viability.

Releasing another part of Faerun as a 'new setting' is pretty weak soup as well but I only give it a possibility due to this excessively conservative bent. The Ravnica/Eberron block shows that the tide may be shifting here.

I may also be ranking Dragonlance too low (WotC appears to consider it in their top tier of settings) but that's probably my bias that I really would wish them to NOT do another standard fantasy, highly overwritten setting to stand alongside the Realms.

If Dragonlance gets a movie, WotC giving it setting book it's a certainty. The question becomes when.
 

Parmandur

Legend
If Dragonlance gets a movie, WotC giving it setting book it's a certainty. The question becomes when.

The movie is coming in 2021, and I am unaware of any serious suggestion that it will be Dragonlance linked.

Though I think Dragonlance will come, maybe sooner rather than later, because it is distinct and popular.
 


Mercurius

Legend
Anyhow, the reason I could see a Chronicles movie trilogy eventually (after one or two successful D&D movies) is that it is pretty much the Best D&D Story Ever Told, at least on the epic scale. It really is too bad that Weis/Hickman were (are?) such terrible prose stylists, because the story and world itself is exceptional and it could have been a true fantasy classic if they could write.

But I'd suggest they get their feet wet with something else - work out the kinks.

And oh yeah, sorry Mr Manganiello - you're a decent actor, but you're not Tanis. Sturm maybe?
 
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I’d fancast him as Verminaard in a Dragonlance movie. I think he’s too old for Caramon, who was 22 at the start of the War of the Lance, and if you cast him as another Hero of the Lance, then you’ve got to cast someone even bigger as Caramon.

And oh yeah, sorry Mr Manganiello - you're a decent actor, but you're not Tanis. Sturm maybe?
 

Caliburn101

Explorer
I'm a Greyhawk fan, so I hope they jump back into many of the devs old favorite. There is still a good fanbase that loves the setting and it would be interesting to see it brought into a more unified whole, hopefully with Iuz still dominating a whole area.

I would like to see this too.

But I am pretty certain it will be Dark Sun.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I would like to see this too.

But I am pretty certain it will be Dark Sun.

Mearls in a Q&A on his Happy Fun Hour recently laid out what would be needed for Dark Sun.

He was very specific and detailed, in a way that suggested he had not just thought about it briefly, but outlined it extensively.
 

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