Would you Swap 3.5e for Exalted?

[jdrakeh]

Well, I suppose you could take your new copy of Exalted 2nd and rip the covers off, too. What does the guy who makes this trade care what WW plans to do with it? If you trade in your old car for a new one, are you horrified when it's taken off to the crusher?

Cheers,
Cam

Anybody suggesting that what happens to an object after it is traded somehow makes the preceding and unrelated swapping of said item for another something other than a trade is beyond the point of being swayed by logic and reason. You have entered the realm of Nerd Rage!

 

[Vocenoctum]

Anybody suggesting that what happens to an object after it is traded somehow makes the preceding and unrelated swapping of said item for another something other than a trade is beyond the point of being swayed by logic and reason. You have entered the realm of Nerd Rage!

Nice & dismissive post. The simple fact is, WW is offering up a deal, and as a part of that deal they're requiring the destruction of a PHB. It's all a marketing ploy, and when folks offer their opinion on this marketing ploy as being in bad taste, somehow that's "nerd logic" and worthy of disregarding.

White Wolf will give you a copy of Exalted, all you have to do is give your PHB to someone as a token gesture. They don't want it, it has no value, they're just having themselves a fun little promotion. How is any of this inaccurate? Why is this not logical or reasonable to understand?

The rest is just opinion, and neither of our opinions is more valid than the other.

 

[SteveC]

I think this is an interesting idea. I'd consider marketing it like so:

"Think high level D&D combat is ponderous and slow?

Trade in your old D&D books, where you had to play for months to get to that point!

Try Exalted, where you can have it that way from day one!"

Seriously, this is the best smiley I can think of to convey my thoughts on the whole thing:
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Is there any crossover or cross marketing between the two games? Maybe I missed that part. Still, I suppose this does give people something to do with their old 3.5 books, which will keep at least some of them from showing up in used bookstores come June.

You have to see the positive in these things.

--Steve

 

[Relique du Madde]

Shall we play devil's advocate?

March 10, 2008
Wizards of the Coast has announced a new program, "Graduate your Game," which will offer 2500 gamers the opportunity to swap their Exalted 2nd Edition core rulebook for free copies of the Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition Players Handbook Core Book. The promotion is timed to catch gamers looking for alternatives as D&D makes the switch from 3.5 to 4th Edition.

Retailers will be able to order promotional kits to support the program. Each will include six order forms, four quick-start scenarios, and a promotional poster. Consumers participating in the program will receive their free copy of the Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition Players Handbook and a graduation packet with a free poster and a diploma.

If we knew the fate of the books traded in Bizzaro World was the same as the the fate of the books that were traded in our world, then would this campaign still offend everyone here? Would this marketing campaign still be considered snide, underhanded, and elitist? Would this press release be so revolting to DnD players that you would give up the system because of the amount of disrespect it heaps on WW? Or would you laugh, and say WW deserves it because Exalted sucks?

 

[moritheil]

Anybody suggesting that what happens to an object after it is traded somehow makes the preceding and unrelated swapping of said item for another something other than a trade is beyond the point of being swayed by logic and reason. You have entered the realm of Nerd Rage!

No, they simply don't understand basic economic theory. That doesn't mean they lack the capacity to understand it altogether.

I think this is an interesting idea. I'd consider marketing it like so:

"Think high level D&D combat is ponderous and slow?

Trade in your old D&D books, where you had to play for months to get to that point!

Try Exalted, where you can have it that way from day one!"

In all fairness, epic characters require much more bookkeeping in 3.5 than in Exalted - though the fistfuls of dice Exalted demands can be aggravating.

 

[Cam Banks]

Nice & dismissive post. The simple fact is, WW is offering up a deal, and as a part of that deal they're requiring the destruction of a PHB.

"Give us the PHB that you don't want any more and we will give you a copy of Exalted 2nd."

That's the simple fact. The rest is processing.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[DaveyJones]

If you trade in your old car for a new one, are you horrified when it's taken off to the crusher?

yes.

but that's only b/c the Mean Green Sex Machine (my old 71 monte carlo) has a lot of memories and can still beat the tar out of most cars on the road. but it sucks at the gas mileage (8mpg) and parts are hard to come by.

on topic i'm keeping my old stuff.

 

[Ourph]

Shall we play devil's advocate?

If we knew the fate of the books traded in Bizzaro World was the same as the the fate of the books that were traded in our world, then would this campaign still offend everyone here? Would this marketing campaign still be considered snide, underhanded, and elitist? Would this press release be so revolting to DnD players that you would give up the system because of the amount of disrespect it heaps on WW? Or would you laugh, and say WW deserves it because Exalted sucks?

Honestly? My response would be the same, ie - I laugh at a good, self-deprecating joke and appreciate a clever marketing scheme that will probably garner quite a bit of free press when the online nerd-rage-athon committee gets wind of it, then I click to the next thread. I fail to see how this is, in any way, a "big deal". :\

 

[Piratecat]

Show me a publisher who has ever upgraded a RPG game system and not touted it has superior to the previous and I'll show you a publisher who is out of business.

Well, there's 5th edition Paranoia...

Oh, wait. West End Games is out of business. Never mind.

 

[jdrakeh]

West End Games is out of business.

No, it isn't. Not yet. It's still hanging on by a thread if the disappearances of Septimus and Torg 2.0, as well as the lack of progress on the D6 SRD and total lack of forum activity are any indicators. I give it a year or less, barring some surprise infusion of funds.