Wyan of Bodach info

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I have an unusual question bridging two campaign settings: Dark Sun & Planescape.

What became of the 12th champion of Rajaat, Wyand of Bodach the Pixie Blight?
From what I've gathered he was beheaded when Borys turned into full dragon form for siding with Rajaat. That was in FY -2629. And then somehow he's alive during the novels to get killed by Rikus & Sadira? Could someone fill in the gaps for me?

I'm trying to figure out what would have happened to Wyan after death, what Outer Plane would he become a petitioner on, if any, and what sort of punishment he would endure.

 

[DracoSuave]

Wyan of Bodach, Pixie Blight (as well as Sacha of Arala, Curse of the Kobolds) were turned into an undead disembodied head by Borys, and then were serving King Kalak of Tyr as an enslaved advisor, and later, King Tithian.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

I have an unusual question bridging two campaign settings: Dark Sun & Planescape.

What became of the 12th champion of Rajaat, Wyand of Bodach the Pixie Blight?
From what I've gathered he was beheaded when Borys turned into full dragon form for siding with Rajaat. That was in FY -2629. And then somehow he's alive during the novels to get killed by Rikus & Sadira? Could someone fill in the gaps for me?

I'm trying to figure out what would have happened to Wyan after death, what Outer Plane would he become a petitioner on, if any, and what sort of punishment he would endure.

They became undead blood-feeding heads. Apparently they were enslaved by Kalak and conquered Tyr for him, remaining behind as advisors. After Kalak's death, they became Tithian's advisors, only now it seemed they were the ones giving orders. They tutored him in wizardry and psionics.

Concepts like "Outer Plane" and "petitioner" are incompatible with Athas. He's dead, and short of being brought back by a ritual, he'll stay that way. But if you want to cross Planescape and Athas, I'd just say "whichever plane works best".

 

[Raunalyn]

Keep in mind that the events of the Prism Pentad essentially didn't happen. Sure, there are a few things that remain consistent with the novels (Tithian is king after Rikus, Agis, Sadira and Neeva help kill Kalak with the Heartwood Spear), but the rest is up to you (if you are the DM).

The problem with Athas is that there are no gods, therefore dead souls (theoretically...I have an idea about that) don't really have a plane of existence for their ultimate reward or punishment. In Dark Sun cosmology, there is mainly just The Gray (or the Shadow).

One potential idea is that, if you want to make Tithian a real bad guy, you can have him use what he's learned from Sacha and Wyan, draining the two of them of their spirits to fuel his transformation into a Sorcerer King. Another idea is to have Wyan attempt to use the spirits trapped in The Gray to create a ritual that would allow him to either rejoin his old body (thereby becoming something like a Lich) or to use his spirit to inhabit a new one. Then, he would be free to continue the Cleansing Wars.

Or, you could accept the fact that Wyan is actually dead. Since he was one of the few of the Champions who was loyal to Rajaat, it could easily be assumed that he was of the LE alignment (to use 3E alignment). That would possibly place him in the Nine Hells or Carceri, whichever you prefer. Even better, he may not have gone to his rest and wanders Athas as a restless shade.

My point is that the pre 4e canon doesn't necessarily apply to Dark Sun 4e.

 

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[MENTION=72670]Raunalyn[/MENTION]
So in the official 4e Dark Sun continuity, Wycan was killed by Bodach and never turned into an undead head? And thus never served Kalak?

[MENTION=1165](Psi)SeveredHead[/MENTION]
My impression was that dead spirits of Athas went into the Gray, which in 4e became the Shadowfell, and that the Shadowfell's proximity to the world helps explain the large amounts of undead in Athas. Or am I off base?

Yeah I am the DM for this one, but (as you can tell) I've never played in Dark Sun - it's a Planescape campaign. One of the players is running a pixie PC from Athas before it became a desert world, and was killed during Wycan's cleansing only to be resurrected by Corellon. I'm trying to incorporate PC backstories into the game, and my first thought was to have Wycan appear as a villain on the planes, and flesh him out a bit. I mean what kind of a SOB goes after pixies unless he's got a "good" reason (or is just a crazy xenophobic genocidal maniac)? It's not like pixies are a threat to the future of mankind.

 

[Raunalyn]

@Raunalyn
So in the official 4e Dark Sun continuity, Wycan was killed by Bodach and never turned into an undead head? And thus never served Kalak?

According to 4e canon, Wyan was beheaded by Borys. There is no mention of him and Sacha serving Kalak or Tithian in the current campaign world. So, you have free reign as to what you'd want to do with Wyan.

Is it strictly Planescape, or will there be a point where they wind up on Athas? If so, then you can say that the spirit of Wyan was awoken when one of the races he was responsible for destroying suddenly appears on Athas. Maybe even turn him into something like an Oath Wight.

Just a thought.

 

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[MENTION=72670]Raunalyn[/MENTION]
So in the official 4e Dark Sun continuity, Wycan was killed by Bodach and never turned into an undead head? And thus never served Kalak?

Dark Sun had a few things changed in 4e. I don't even think Rajaat exists anymore

So we're dealing with setting changes as well as rules changes, plus two settings.

[MENTION=1165](Psi)SeveredHead[/MENTION]
My impression was that dead spirits of Athas went into the Gray, which in 4e became the Shadowfell, and that the Shadowfell's proximity to the world helps explain the large amounts of undead in Athas. Or am I off base?

I haven't the foggiest clue. Planar rules have nothing to do with game balance, so I've made little attempt to learn them. Dark Sun cosmology was different from base 2e rules, so I assume the changes were due to flavor, not "game balance".

Yeah I am the DM for this one, but (as you can tell) I've never played in Dark Sun - it's a Planescape campaign. One of the players is running a pixie PC from Athas before it became a desert world, and was killed during Wycan's cleansing only to be resurrected by Corellon. I'm trying to incorporate PC backstories into the game, and my first thought was to have Wycan appear as a villain on the planes, and flesh him out a bit. I mean what kind of a SOB goes after pixies unless he's got a "good" reason (or is just a crazy xenophobic genocidal maniac)? It's not like pixies are a threat to the future of mankind.

He did it because Rajaat told him to. And being an evil person already, he had little reason not to follow the order.

According to 4e canon, Wyan was beheaded by Borys. There is no mention of him and Sacha serving Kalak or Tithian in the current campaign world. So, you have free reign as to what you'd want to do with Wyan.

Is it strictly Planescape, or will there be a point where they wind up on Athas? If so, then you can say that the spirit of Wyan was awoken when one of the races he was responsible for destroying suddenly appears on Athas. Maybe even turn him into something like an Oath Wight.

Just a thought.

From what I've read (not explicitly stated), it seems like the first three or four books of the Prism Pentad might be canon. For instance, the disappearance of Nibenay's son (end of book three) gets a mention.

But you're free to ignore that.

 

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[MENTION=1165](Psi)SeveredHead[/MENTION]
Thanks for the download. I would XP you, but apparently I need to spread the love first.

According to 4e canon, Wyan was beheaded by Borys. There is no mention of him and Sacha serving Kalak or Tithian in the current campaign world. So, you have free reign as to what you'd want to do with Wyan.

Is it strictly Planescape, or will there be a point where they wind up on Athas? If so, then you can say that the spirit of Wyan was awoken when one of the races he was responsible for destroying suddenly appears on Athas. Maybe even turn him into something like an Oath Wight.

Just a thought.

It's Planescape, though I haven't ruled out the possibility of a visit to Athas (bending the normal "no planar travel" rule associated with Dark Sun). The idea of an undead Wycan awakening when a pixie shows up is interesting.

 

[DracoSuave]

[MENTION=72670]I mean what kind of a SOB goes after pixies unless he's got a "good" reason (or is just a crazy xenophobic genocidal maniac)? It's not like pixies are a threat to the future of mankind.

Rajaat was a mutant, but he discovered sorcery. He also believed firmly in genocide so he taught people he could find sorcery in order to carry out his very evil plan.

The Champions of Rajaat were each tasked with the eradication of an entire race of non-human sentient creatures. This was sold to the human wizard/psionicists as an act of human supremecy, while creating human societies with heavy emphasis on slavery.

The champions that turned on Rajaat did so only after discovering the truth; Rajaat was not human, he was a halfling, and only using humans to carry out his will because of their short lifespans. Once every other race was destroyed, Rajaat planned to use the cities as 'melting pots.' As in, melt all the humans in one pot. And yes, he could do that.

This would then leave Athas for the Halflings, who are the 'original race'.

The Champions, however, did discover this ruse, and imprisoned Rajaat for deceiving them, and as well for not being human. Then they decided to simply be content with world domination--given that the amount of life left on Athas was now considerably less with various races having been utterly annihilated. Some of the champions were VERY successful.

 

[Andalusian]

The champions that turned on Rajaat did so only after discovering the truth; Rajaat was not human, he was a halfling, and only using humans to carry out his will because of their short lifespans.

While Rajaat wanted to return the world to the halflings, from what I remember he wasn't a halfling himself, but a hideously deformed pyreen. Can't remember where I read that... the 2E revised campaign setting boxed set?