X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST Final Trailer

[EscherEnigma]

So Wolverine is taking the place of Rachel Summers, interesting. I was wondering how they was gonna pull this off being they already killed off Jean and Scott, which i guess totally ruins any chance of a Cable movie.

Nah. For multiple reasons!

First, even in 616, Cable isn't actually Jean's son. He's the son of her clone, who was made after she "died" the first time because Sinister was bored.
Second, in other universes Cable isn't always related to Scott and Jean at all. In the Ultimate universe, for example, he was a (sorta) depowered Wolverine from the future.
Third, the movie universe plays fast and loose with the important relationships anyway. Scott became a younger brother (if he's related at all), Mystique lost both her kids, Juggernaut became a mutant and lost his brotherhood with Charles... it goes on.
Fourth, Cable is a time traveler and in the Marvel comics that means he can get disjointed from his future by changing the past such that the future he is from can't happen. So it's very possible he could show up and say "where's my mom and dad?" and everyone is all "uh, they be dead, dude. How do you exist?" And he'll got "ah shucks, this again? I hate it when I accidentally kill my parents." and then it all gets revealed that he accidentally changed something that resulted in his parents dying, and then he has to fix things to undo it. Classic time-travel story.

So... yeah. Lots of ways they could make a Cable movie if they wanted.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

So... yeah. Lots of ways they could make a Cable movie if they wanted.

Let's hope they never want to make it.

 

[The_Silversword]

Nah. For multiple reasons!

First, even in 616, Cable isn't actually Jean's son. He's the son of her clone, who was made after she "died" the first time because Sinister was bored.
Second, in other universes Cable isn't always related to Scott and Jean at all. In the Ultimate universe, for example, he was a (sorta) depowered Wolverine from the future.
Third, the movie universe plays fast and loose with the important relationships anyway. Scott became a younger brother (if he's related at all), Mystique lost both her kids, Juggernaut became a mutant and lost his brotherhood with Charles... it goes on.
Fourth, Cable is a time traveler and in the Marvel comics that means he can get disjointed from his future by changing the past such that the future he is from can't happen. So it's very possible he could show up and say "where's my mom and dad?" and everyone is all "uh, they be dead, dude. How do you exist?" And he'll got "ah shucks, this again? I hate it when I accidentally kill my parents." and then it all gets revealed that he accidentally changed something that resulted in his parents dying, and then he has to fix things to undo it. Classic time-travel story.

So... yeah. Lots of ways they could make a Cable movie if they wanted.

Well yeah, but the movies like to have simple explanations for things, like adamantium can be melted for instance, so I think theyd have a tough time coming up with a reasonable "movie" explanation of where Cable comes from with no Scott and Jean, or a clone of Jean, speaking of which wasnt Madeline, or whatever her name was cloned from the Phoenix which was a clone of Jean, who was actually in stasis in an energy cocoon during the whole Phoenix thing, so really wouldnt that make her a clone of a clone?

 

[The_Silversword]

Let's hope they never want to make it.

You dont like Cable? A dish fan eh?

 

[The_Silversword]

His left eye glows, for some reason related to his mutant powers.

Not getting back to the movie details : http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04...ene-during-amazing-spider-man-2as-end-credits

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As for Rahcle Summers..a whole series of movies called be The Summers Family tree and no one would still have a clue what the hell is going on...that tree breaks Ancestery.com' website

Well of course his left eye glows, his left side is his robot half, so it would make sense for his robot eye to glow, if it was related to his mutant power then his organic eye would glow too.

 

[trappedslider]

Well of course his left eye glows, his left side is his robot half, so it would make sense for his robot eye to glow, if it was related to his mutant power then his organic eye would glow too.

Even though his cybernetic left eye glows, this is actually an effect related to his mutant powers; quite possibly as a vestigial offshoot of his father's genes. The same trait is also seen in his uncle, Vulcan and his counterpart, Nathaniel Grey (Earth-295).

 

[The_Silversword]

Well it looks to me like both of Vulcan's eyes are glowing, and it would make sense for Nate Grey to have a glowing left eye even though hes not a cyborg, cause doesnt he grow up to be Stryfe? So when he attempts to assassinate prof X that makes it easier to pin it on Cable. I still say the glowing eye is cause its robotic. I dont see how a glowing robot eye would have anything to do with a mutation.

 

[EscherEnigma]

Well yeah, but the movies like to have simple explanations for things, like adamantium can be melted for instance, so I think theyd have a tough time coming up with a reasonable "movie" explanation of where Cable comes from with no Scott and Jean, or a clone of Jean, speaking of which wasnt Madeline, or whatever her name was cloned from the Phoenix which was a clone of Jean, who was actually in stasis in an energy cocoon during the whole Phoenix thing, so really wouldnt that make her a clone of a clone?

You're overthinking this. Yes, keeping an accurate-to-616 version of Cable would be difficult in the movies. But putting Cable into the movies and just never bothering with the back story or just giving it a one-line explanation... that's easy. See: everyone but Wolverine, Prof X, Magneto and Mystique. Everyone else has no real backstory. And hell... they pretty radically changed Mystique's backstory just to make her a kid sister of Chuck in First Class. Not really sure why you think they wouldn't be willing to radically re-write Cable's history (if they addressed it at all) if they wanted to use the character.

And whether Pryor was a second-generation or first-generation clone depends on when Sinister got his sample. I don't know the answer to that.

 

[The_Silversword]

You're overthinking this. Yes, keeping an accurate-to-616 version of Cable would be difficult in the movies. But putting Cable into the movies and just never bothering with the back story or just giving it a one-line explanation... that's easy. See: everyone but Wolverine, Prof X, Magneto and Mystique. Everyone else has no real backstory. And hell... they pretty radically changed Mystique's backstory just to make her a kid sister of Chuck in First Class. Not really sure why you think they wouldn't be willing to radically re-write Cable's history (if they addressed it at all) if they wanted to use the character.

And whether Pryor was a second-generation or first-generation clone depends on when Sinister got his sample. I don't know the answer to that.

Overthinking it? I think this is the first time ive ever been accused of overthinking something, but yeah you are probably right, its just that one of the things i loved about the X-Men comics (I havnt really followed comics much since Punisher turned black) was the relationships between the various characters, something that the movies, other than the love triangle between Jean, Scott, and Wolvie, managed to screw up. It shoulda been Shadowcat hangin with Logan, not Rogue, or at the very least Jubilee, Rogue shoulda been with Gambit, since its unlikely shed fall for Magneto after he tried to kill her and everything, no back story with Lady Deathstrike and Wolvie, I could go on and on, my point is introducing Cable as a future Wolverine or whatever, in my opinion, would be a stupid idea. I understand its just hollywood, and of course theyre gonna change stuff up, but still, Iceman was an orginal X-Man, and now hes a New Mutant? WTF!!!?

My wife really hates seeing these movies with me, cause through the whole movie im like come one thats not what happened! Anyways, when we saw the last Wolverine movie i kept my mouth shut through the whole movie, trying to be polite, yaknow? She turns to me at the end and says, "Well?!" lol. I think she secretly likes hearing me bitch about those movies.

 

[Viking Bastard]

I love/hate how any incarnation of the X-Men is unable to not become a convoluted mess.

And then they try to fix it, only adding layers to the ever growing ball of confusion.