RangerWickett
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It was the 60s.
I personally dug the movie. It made me want to run a superhero game.
I personally dug the movie. It made me want to run a superhero game.
X-Men: First Class
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You just have to remember that's it's the difference between SCIENCE fiction and science FICTION. Movies, especially super-hero movies, tend to fall toward the latter end of that scale.
It's hard to have a problem with a coin (a coin that would hardly respond to magnetic forces in the first place) being slowly pushed through a person's head, when you have a woman that can turn into a living diamond, a man who can fly by screaming at the ground, a woman with tattoos that grow into insect wings, and a man who can magically absorb "energy" and spit it back out... All by dint of genetic mutations.
This is about some years before he's the world's mightiest psychic. He's still young, and Frost has been at the game longer than Xavier at the time of the movie.
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The reason that it annoys me is that superhero stuff is normally a case of 'the hero breaks the rules in -these- ways' but the rest of the world works as expected. It is about consistency in the fantasy of the world. Let's face it - all superhero stuff is basically full on fantasy, and doesn't have any science-fiction in it at all in any meaningful way, right
The reason that it annoys me is that superhero stuff is normally a case of 'the hero breaks the rules in -these- ways' but the rest of the world works as expected. It is about consistency in the fantasy of the world. Let's face it - all superhero stuff is basically full on fantasy, and doesn't have any science-fiction in it at all in any meaningful way, right
Ultimately yes, superheroes are magic. And comicbook physics is more like RPG physics than real world physics.
As for the coin push, consider:
he moved it slowly so that it did not impart extra kinetic energy to shaw, thus increasing his ability to resist the coin being pushed into his head
he could have reshaped the edge of the coin (not seen from the camera) to be sharper, to enable it to be pushed in better.
Once it entered the cranium, all bets are off. He could have spun that sucker around his head like a blender in there. There's no reason to assume that he simply pushed it into the center of his brain, neatly between the 2 lobes.
technically, magnetism can affect other metals, like Aluminum or Lead. Mythbusters tested the bullets on a magnet, which though busted, did demonstrate that a large enough magnetic field does impact even lead. Another Discovery channel show from a few years back demonstrated that running an aluminum blade through a pair of magnets would signficantly impede its progress. They used it to create a magnetic brake for an escape chair.
In the comics, at one point Magneto's power was sufficient to control minds by manipulating the iron in the blood in the person's brain. Suffice it to say that hero's powers tend to be extended in ways that serve the plot.
Pbartender
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Let's face it - all superhero stuff is basically full on fantasy, and doesn't have any science-fiction in it at all in any meaningful way, right
Not unlike Star Wars, I generally put sort superhero stuff into the "science-fantasy" category (the fictional far end of the science-fiction continuum)... Effectively, it's just "magic" that has been been vaguely explained away by a superficial veil of pseudo-science. It's sounds really good in a comic book or a movie, but you can't examine the rationale too closely if you want to continue enjoying it as entertainment.
Technically, through induction, magnetism can affect non-metals as well - like frogs and grasshoppers.
(http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd1_1216020610)
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E]YouTube - levitating frog[/ame]
It takes very, very strong fields to do this sort of thing, but we are talking about Magneto, here.
I always assumed that was how Magneto flew.
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