X4: Master of the Desert Nomads - OOC

[renau1g]

Hey! NOT like GM!! Get YOUR OWN government to bail you out!!! We Americans have enough problems of our own, trust me.

Oh, my government has pledged like $9 billion to GM, a foreign company, to try and keep the 2 plants we have here open. It's costing the taxpayers, around $150k/job.

Oh, wow! Is it online or do you buy a cd somewhere?

It is a cd, you can grab it on eBay, the game is from 2000, although I still enjoy it:
BioWare: Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn

BALDUR's GATE II 2 SHADOWS of AMN 4-DISC CD-ROM PC IBM on eBay.ca (item 350209029955 end time 01-Jul-09 14:56:53 EDT)

 

[Leif]

Oh, my government has pledged like $9 billion to GM, a foreign company, to try and keep the 2 plants we have here open. It's costing the taxpayers, around $150k/job.

I don't know what to say, man. That seems even more stupid than what our government does.

It is a cd, you can grab it on eBay, the game is from 2000, although I still enjoy it:
BioWare: Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn

BALDUR's GATE II 2 SHADOWS of AMN 4-DISC CD-ROM PC IBM on eBay.ca (item 350209029955 end time 01-Jul-09 14:56:53 EDT)

Wow, thanks man! Do you need a joystick to play properly? Or can girls play too? hehehehehe I did NOT say that!

 

[Rhun]

I think the whole idea is for 4E to be more "video gamey", to compete with video games like World of Warcraft. My cousin's husband is heavily into WoW, and was showing me how to play. I told him, this is just like D&D! You ought to let me show you how to play that! He said, "But is D&D all just 'text based'? Nahhh, not interested. I like to SEE the mosters die!" But, truly, the descriptive attack effects that are in 4E should probably be applied to 3.5E as well, because more colorful descriptions would make the game much more interesting than, "You did 12 hp damage." But, ENWorld has gone a long way towards helping that transformation occur, because when you have to write out descriptions for EVERYTHING as you must do on the Boards to get your point across, it forces DMs to reach down deep in their cavernous brains and come out with some just pretty cool stuff.

I've never told a PC "You did 12 points of damage!" LOL. Even in the tabletop games I've played, I give creative descriptions. I think that is something to blame on individual DMs, and not on the game itself.

 

[Rhun]

It is a cd, you can grab it on eBay, the game is from 2000, although I still enjoy it:
BioWare: Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn

I played the BG and BG2 console games, but I don't think they were much like the one you are talking about right?

 

[renau1g]

I don't know what to say, man. That seems even more stupid than what our government does.

Wow, thanks man! Do you need a joystick to play properly? Or can girls play too? hehehehehe I did NOT say that!

Wow... nice... no it's using keyboard and mouse, you can pause game anytime to give your PC's actions (so every round you can have spellcasters cast different spells)

I've never told a PC "You did 12 points of damage!" LOL. Even in the tabletop games I've played, I give creative descriptions. I think that is something to blame on individual DMs, and not on the game itself.

Indeed, 4e doesn't necesarily fix that, I know one guy in my RL group keeps saying with his ranger, I use my twin strike, as he rolls the two dice...

 

[renau1g]

I played the BG and BG2 console games, but I don't think they were much like the one you are talking about right?

No... nothing like that. Bioware made the Computer version and it's too good to be true... j/k.

But it plays like an epic RP game and there's consequences to every action. Also, it's pretty hard, like pull no punches don't mess with that dragon hard...

 

[Rhun]

No... nothing like that. Bioware made the Computer version and it's too good to be true... j/k.

But it plays like an epic RP game and there's consequences to every action. Also, it's pretty hard, like pull no punches don't mess with that dragon hard...

Cool, cool. Sounds pretty sweet.

 

[Jemal]

I think the whole idea is for 4E to be more "video gamey", to compete with video games like World of Warcraft. My cousin's husband is heavily into WoW, and was showing me how to play. I told him, this is just like D&D! You ought to let me show you how to play that! He said, "But is D&D all just 'text based'? Nahhh, not interested. I like to SEE the mosters die!" But, truly, the descriptive attack effects that are in 4E should probably be applied to 3.5E as well, because more colorful descriptions would make the game much more interesting than, "You did 12 hp damage." But, ENWorld has gone a long way towards helping that transformation occur, because when you have to write out descriptions for EVERYTHING as you must do on the Boards to get your point across, it forces DMs to reach down deep in their cavernous brains and come out with some just pretty cool stuff.

Thankfully I've only ever played with one DM that described combat like that, IRL. For the most part everyone I've gamed with goes the extra meter and actually describes stuff.. not always in as much detail as we do here on ENWorld(though sometimes), but at the very least "You swing your sword at the dragon, drawing a shallow slice for 12 damage." Some of the better games I've had 3.0/3.5 were more akin to storytelling with the amount of description that got thrown around, both by players and DM's. I've had entire hours-long gaming sessions where not a die was rolled.

For example, when we play epic IRL, we don't do it b/c we want to obliterate armies (well, OK not JUST because we want to obliterate armies), we do it because describing what Epic Characters do is just plain fun! It's like living out a truley heroic adventure.

I've seen nothing about 4e that makes it either more OR less descriptive. I am simply not fond of it. I've tried it out a few times, and it's an interesting system, but I say that like I say World of Darkness, or Gurps, etc, are interesting systems. I just don't see it as D&D. Heck, I think of WoW as being closer to my view of D&D than I do 4e.

 

[Rhun]

I just don't see it as D&D. Heck, I think of WoW as being closer to my view of D&D than I do 4e.

Wow (not WoW)...those are strong words.

 

[Walking Dad]

Personally, I don't much like wildshape, I don't like summoning spells, and I don't like animal companions.

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Sad to be not liked by the DM ()

And hey, no need to start an edition war. We are all friends here...

(BTW, wildshape need much cheesy stuff to become so great..., Girgal isn't overpowering, is he?)