D&D 4E XP for NPCs in 4e?

[JuzamDjinn]

In the 4E DMG, I can't figure out how much XP you are supposed get for defeating an NPC (like a fighter, cleric, etc.).

Anyone know? And a page reference if you have one?

 

[GnomeWorks]

There are no NPCs like you are thinking in 4e.

 

[BLACKDIRGE]

NPCs are treated like standard monsters of thier level. For example, an 8th level human rogue is an 8th level skirmisher, and therfore worth 350 XP. But be careful when adding an NPC class template to a monster; that turns it into an elite, which is a tougher critter and worth more XP.

BD

 

[GnomeWorks]

NPCs are treated like standard monsters of thier level. For example, an 8th level human rogue is an 8th level skirmisher, and therfore worth 350 XP. But be careful when adding an NPC class template to a monster; that turns it into an elite, which is a tougher critter and worth more XP.

...huh, apparently I hadn't read that particular part of the DMG close enough.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

 

[sinecure]

How much XP do you get for killing a PC?

Maybe an Elite of that level?

 

[Magus Coeruleus]

One problem I had when building a mid-level human villain was I started by following the rules for an NPC ranger and was getting number much higher than level 4 things in the MM. Anyone else get the feeling that a level X NPC is tougher than other level X creatures?

 

[Cirex]

One problem I had when building a mid-level human villain was I started by following the rules for an NPC ranger and was getting number much higher than level 4 things in the MM. Anyone else get the feeling that a level X NPC is tougher than other level X creatures?

Templates turn the enemy into an elite one. Lich, rogue, etc.

 

[neobolts]

How much XP do you get for killing a PC?

Maybe an Elite of that level?

You've awarded XP for killing PCs in the past? Heh, we should've switched groups. A lot of our group's time got wasted trying to convince the PCs to stop killing each other.

I'm playing with a smaller group these days (A portion of the larger group.), but the big rowdy group is still going.

 

[Magus Coeruleus]

Templates turn the enemy into an elite one. Lich, rogue, etc.

Right, but I'm not talking about class templates (pp. 182-183); I'm talking about creating NPCs (p. 186-188). There's nothing in that section to suggest that classed NPCs count as elites.

 

[Ashenboychild]

I think they don't

From what i've read, the difference is that NPC's get only 1 of each type of power, no AP's, no second wind, and only one magic item. They also seem to use the monster system for gaining hp.

Naturally, an NPC that is built like a pc should be much more powerful, but i think that was an oversight