D&D Movie/TV (Yet another) D&D Movie Speculation thread.

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Iris Elba is too tall to be a halfling. Lucy Lui as a Barbarian though, yes please.

Everyone who has ever played a Halfling, hobbit, dwarf or similar species in the past 30 years is too tall. It’s all done with forced perspective and other camera tricks or special effects.
 

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Pauln6

Adventurer
Everyone who has ever played a Halfling, hobbit, dwarf or similar species in the past 30 years is too tall. It’s all done with forced perspective and other camera tricks or special effects.
The Halfling actors tend to be short, maybe 5'6" to 5'8", the dwarves tend to be a bit taller, maybe 6'. Idris is more dwarf height. I wasn't overly impressed with the Dwarf casting in the hobbit. They needed stockier actors imo. On reflection, the cast might be a bit too old on average for a neophyte group.
 

Are you meaning they should have chosen a more masculine looking actress to match her depiction on the coinage at that time?

They should have chosen a black actress, since the ruling Egyptian dynasty at the time was black (which was why the Romans responded so negatively when Caesar brought her to Rome, racism isn't new). Although most of the Romans in that movie didn't look very Italian either (and neither did Russell Crowe, many years later).
 

Everyone who has ever played a Halfling, hobbit, dwarf or similar species in the past 30 years is too tall. It’s all done with forced perspective and other camera tricks or special effects.

That's not entirely true, they used scale doubles in the long shots. So the parts where played by appropriately sized actors, just not in close-up.

Also, Peter Dinklage and Warwick Davis played dwarves in the Narnia movies.
 

One way to handle drow in a mainstream movie without offending anyone would be to give them medium gray skin like in this classic illustration from the 2nd ed. Monster Manual http://dedpihto.narod.ru/games/Monsters1/elfdrow.gif . There are no humans with skin anywhere near that color.
Make sure to show that even though it's a matriarchal society, the males are just as evil as the females, the female drow are just the ones in charge because they are stronger.

Of course, not having any drow at all is even simpler. They are only one of many D&D villains, and unlikely to show up unless you're in the underdark.
 

They should have chosen a black actress, since the ruling Egyptian dynasty at the time was black (which was why the Romans responded so negatively when Caesar brought her to Rome, racism isn't new). Although most of the Romans in that movie didn't look very Italian either (and neither did Russell Crowe, many years later).

Um what? The Ptolemaic dynasty were Greeks, where did you get this idea that they were black?
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
That's not entirely true, they used scale doubles in the long shots. So the parts where played by appropriately sized actors, just not in close-up.

Also, Peter Dinklage and Warwick Davis played dwarves in the Narnia movies.

Haven’t seen the Narnia movies, at least, not in their entireties. A regretful gap.
 

Sadras

Legend
They should have chosen a black actress, since the ruling Egyptian dynasty at the time was black (which was why the Romans responded so negatively when Caesar brought her to Rome, racism isn't new). Although most of the Romans in that movie didn't look very Italian either (and neither did Russell Crowe, many years later).

Could you kindly provide the source which reflects on a black skinned Cleopatra?
 

Um what? The Ptolemaic dynasty were Greeks, where did you get this idea that they were black?

It's controversial and unclear (and can be Googled), but she was certainly darker skinned than the average Italian, who are darker skinned than the average Liz Taylor.

But my point was that historical figures are no more cast by matching ethnicity than fictional characters. And maybe that is as it should be, if people are as happy with a black Elizabeth I as they are with a white Cleopatra.
 
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Pauln6

Adventurer
It's controversial and unclear (and can be Googled), but she was certainly darker skinned than the average Italian, who are darker skinned than the average Liz Taylor.

But my point was that historical figures are no more cast by matching ethnicity than fictional characters. And maybe that is as it should be, if people are as happy with a black Elizabeth I as they are with a white Cleopatra.

I had no issues with a mixed race Gwen in Merlin. Angel Coulby was one of the best things in it.
 



Quartz

Hero
Initially, at least. Did the Ptolemaic line interbreed with either the native Egyptians or Nubians or did it keep importing Greeks? Is that even recorded or hinted at?

They married each other. The Cleopatra of fame, for instance, married her brother.
 

Initially, at least. Did the Ptolemaic line interbreed with either the native Egyptians or Nubians or did it keep importing Greeks? Is that even recorded or hinted at?

There in no record of Cleopatra's mother's lineage. If she had been a Ptolemy you would expect to see a record. Ergo, she was most likely native. There are other similar gaps further up her lineage, suggesting the Ptolemys interbred on a fairly regular basis.
 

Azzy

KMF DM
They married each other. The Cleopatra of fame, for instance, married her brother.

I went to look at the specifics of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, because I knew it was more convoluted than just that because of the Egyptophilia from my youth (there was a Queen of Cyrene and a princess of the Seleucid Empire at least). But I stopped halfway through the dynasty because I got bored with the Alexandrian soap opera and there's only so much research I want to do for a fairly trivial internet discussion. It seems, though, that, even when the Ptolemys weren't being incestuous, they still kept it pretty Greek. :D
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
I saw a column about Ptolemaic Egypt once...
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Warwick Davis was also the main star in Willow. But that still leaves our total of short actors at about two.

Three. There is also Deep Roy, who played the Oompa Lumpas in Charlie and the Chocolate factory. I didn't mention him because I can't find any record of him playing an actual dwarf*. A long time ago he was the awesome Mr Sin in The Talons of Weng Chiang though.

*I seem to remember him playing the dwarf in a TV version of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but I can't find a citation for it.
 

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