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Your fantasy classics of the last 25 years

I'd propose Stephen Brust's Dragaera novels, including the Vlad books & the Khavren Romances. I'm surprised they don't appear to be more widely read. They display a great mix of gritty character storytelling in an epic high-fantasy millieu. I've stollen more than a few of his concepts for my own campaign setting.
Originally Posted by ScyldSceafing
the characters whose every action drips eeeevil in the first book, later become point-of-view characters, which inevitably leads to a complete recontextualization of that character's actions.
The afore-mentioned novels showcase this kind of evil character point-of-view narration which leads you to love the main character, Vlad, who essentially kills people for money while trying to build and maintain his own little criminal syndicate but who is fiercely protective of his own friends and loved ones. I can't wait for Brust's next novel 'Dzur'. :)
 

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I'd suggest one major guideline here -

Any incomplete series where the individual works don't stand on their own (for the most part) shouldn't be eligible for "classic" status yet. So I'd leave Wheel of Time, Song of Ice and Fire, and the Mazalan books off the list for now. On the other hand, mostly self-sufficient series like Pratchett's Discworld (really four series and some standalones in the same world) might be worth considering.
 

James Blaylock - The Last Coin
Glen Cook - Black Company series
Elizabeth Moon - Deed of Paksenarion
Barry Hughart - The Master Li and Number Ten Ox series
Spider Robinson - The Callahan's Bar and Lady Sally series (this kind of fencesits between SF and fantasy, mostly)
Terry Prachett - all
Tim Robbins - all
Sean Russell - All
 

WayneLigon said:
Spider Robinson - The Callahan's Bar and Lady Sally series (this kind of fencesits between SF and fantasy, mostly)
Callahan's is definitely SF, haven't read the Lady Sally but if it's like his other stuff it might have fantasy elements, but it isn't fantasy at least in the LotR/Conan/Elric sense of things.

WayneLigon said:
Tim Robbins - all
Sean Russell - All

Who, what? I'd have to guess if neither of their names rings a bell and I can't connect their names to a series that their odds of becoming classics are pretty low.
 

Okay, I am guessing about some of these as to whether or not they fall into the right age range...

Mythago Woods by Robert Holdstock -- this is truly classic for me. Real world characters are drawn into the land of half-remembered myth and legend, all in a forest less than a mile square. Dark, mysterious, and intriguing

Newford Collections by Charles de Lint -- de Lint has written many books, but his Newford collections are the stuff of true magic. Faery tales encroaching into and adapting to new urban settings, new legends being created from the stuff around us, the man writes with great beauty and style.

Tigana, The Lions of al-Rassan, and Song for Arbonne by Guy Gavriel Kay. Doing a riff on legends and history out of our own past, he creates deep characters, stirring plots, strong and real emotions, and truly passionate writing. These are brilliant works.

That's enough for the moment. ;)
 



Eddings, Feist, Brooks, Weis and Hickman....
Their seminal works are staples of my upbrining in the fantasy genre.
I love them all and they hold special places in my heart...
so in some respects they are classics.

but If I had read them after reading the first half of WOT or a Song of Ice and Fire.
I'd thionk they were proably pretty poor in comparison.

Its really impossible to say when will be considered a classic in 25 years.
But ASOIAF has my vote. I think Bakkers A Proince of Nothing has a chance at that too, even though its not really my cup of tea. although I havent read them yet either, Bujolds Chalion books seemed destined to become clkassics based on all the awards they win.
 

In terms of the stuff I've liked:

Hobb's Assassin trilogy -- fighting, stealth, magic, politics, teen angst. This is the classic young hero angst story.

The Belgariad -- like other people said, too likeable not to like. This is the classic retro-Arthurian story.

Song of Ice and Fire -- yep. Even if incomplete, it's breaking some rules and raising the bar. This is the classic modern-gritty epic fantasy.

Pratchett's Discworld -- yep. This is the classic comedy fantasy.

Harry Potter -- yep. This is the classic young adult fantasy.

Stuff that doesn't do it for me, but should be on the list anyway:

Wheel of Time -- I stopped reading awhile ago, but it's enough of a literary presence that it really should be on the list

Mieville's Perdido Street Station -- it's vertiginously overwritten and filled with enough deliberately disgusting attempts to shock the reader with its transgression of intransgressible paradigms, or something really transgressive like that, that it left me with a bad taste in my mouth and no sympathetic character or classic plot to hold onto. That said, it's changing the genre, and I respect that.

The Runelords -- this one's borderline for me. I flipped through it but didn't like it, so I've never read it and don't intend to. That said, I've heard enough people talking about the magic system, and how it's different and interesting and actually follows some rules and such, that it seems to be kind of new and different, and I think it probably belongs on the list.

Sara Douglass -- This woman writes beautiful evocative prose. She's got some truly wonderous, tearjerking scenes in her fiction. If she could come up with anything remotely resembling a plot, she'd be a runaway success. As it is, I think her stuff has been successful enough, and spawned enough imitations, to be considered a classic.

Stuff that shouldn't be on the list, in my opinion

Feist's Riftwar Saga -- I'll suffer the flames, but while I liked it as a kid, it hasn't really stood the test of time, and reading it now, it looks pretty blatantly D&Dish and clunky. I actually like his later stuff better -- he's matured as a writer -- but I wouldn't put it up there as a classic.

Goodkind -- No. No, no, no, no, no. I don't care how popular it is, no.

Drake's "Lord of the Isles" and sequels -- this one just hasn't made as much of an impression. If I'd loved it, I might try to sneak it up there, but while the first book was decent, it didn't seem to go anywhere in the sequels, and it struck me a lot like my flip-through of the Runelords. "Wow, this guy is... pretty much... doing... normal fantasy. He's changed enough stuff to make it a bit different, but... eh." Those fantasies only work for me if they're really well written, and while the Runelords had the new magic system, Drake's stuff didn't have any special draw that made it different for me.

Modessit's Recluse Series -- I really like this series, as well as some of Modessit's other series, but I just don't think it's changed the market enough to be considered a classic.

Elizabeth Hayden -- Much like Modessit, except that I didn't like her. It's sold respectably well and built up a world, but it hasn't changed the face of the market. It's not enough of a sales powerhouse (like Wheel of Time), geek powerhouse (like Martin), or literary powerhouse (like Mieville) to qualify.

The Myth Series -- I liked it, and if Aspirin hadn't had his several-year depressive episode or drug spiral or whatever it was that knocked him out of the field for so long, I'd say that it should be a classic. But while he was gone, the field moved on without him, and I think that, while he was one of the iconic first popular comic fantasy people, he's been surpassed by enough folks now to not be on the list.
 

I have to put my first choice as
Dennis McKiernan's Mithgar cycle. When I picked it up I was sort of cold on fantasy in general, except Tolkien which I still read often, but with the Iron Tower trilogy I was fired back up. Some would say it is too much like Tolkien and Terry Brooks' books so it should not be counted as groundbreaking literature, but I loved it all and re-read the books from time to time. It moved me when I needed to be moved.

second, would be Moorcock's Elric, though most of that is a bit more than 25 years old.... Just very unsettling and evocative storytelling.

third, would be, Feist's entire Midkemia line of stories. The world is fascinating and extensive, especially when you combine the three books he co-wrote with Janny Wurts. As much as I like to play wizard's in DnD, I like my stories to be more about simple characters or plain folks rather than earth shattering magi.

fourth has to be Tad Williams' Memory Sorrow and Thorn. Wow, what a story. He changed all our stereotypical elves and dwarves and made them a new kind of interesting. He also charged the story with pathos and made me care while I was reading it. And Luckily he brought the tale to a close within a reasonable number of books. I dread some of the long series that may not be done before I die.
 

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