Your favorite LA +1

[Klaus]

Giving them an AC/attack penalty as if they were Large creatures?

Giving them a Dex penalty?

Giving them a flat-out penalty on Cha-based checks when dealing with non-goliaths?

 

[werk]

I like my Deathtouched, but that's from a 3e Dragon mag...basically an undead planetouched.

(I don't have the mag with me, but found this online.)

LA+1
Ability Adjustments: +4 Cha, +2 Wis, -2 Con.
Favored Class (Sorcerer)
Special Abilities:
- Darkvision: Mortifs can see in the dark.
- Skill Affinity (Move Silently): +2 racial bonus to Move Silently checks.
- Skill Affinity (Intimidate): +2 racial bonus to Intimidate checks.
- Resist Cold: Innate cold resistance of 5.
- Resist Electricity: Innate electricity resistance of 5.
- Spell Ability - Chill Touch: Can cast once per day as spell of characters level.
- Human: Mortifs are considered Human for the purpose of spells.

Obviously, my character is a sorcerer...but would probably make an OK paladin or cleric, etc.

 

[Presto2112]

Giving them an AC/attack penalty as if they were Large creatures?

Meh. Powerful build is basically supposed to be "all of the benefits of being big, without the penalties".

Giving them a Dex penalty?

They already have a -2 Dex penalty.

Giving them a flat-out penalty on Cha-based checks when dealing with non-goliaths?

That one is the only one I've thought of myself so far.

Perhaps another penalty one could house-rule would be to make the race as a whole illiterate. It is established in RoS that the written word is a relatively new concept to Goliaths, so it might make sense that only those that active strive to learn to read actually do so, with the rest of the tribe not bothering. I doubt that this by itself would be enough to lower an LA, but it's something.

 

[werk]

Reading this thread convinces me more and more that the hobgoblins should be LA +0. +2 Dex, +2 Con, Darkvision and a bonus to Move Silently just doesn't cut it as LA +1...

The real question is: is (+2 Dex, +2 Con, Darkvision and a bonus to Move Silently) greater than or equal to (bonus feat, bonus skill points, and non-favored class)? Pretty subjective and hard to compare, apples and tangelos.

 

[Drowbane]

1/2 Ogre, Feral, and Mineral Warrior would have to be my top 3.

[soapbox]And as to 1/2 Ogre being +2 in RoD, bullocks to that!

Compare the SS 1/2 Ogre to your garden-variety Orc. +2 more Str. Size Large. Counts as Giant. Just what there is worth +2 LA? Large size is quite often as much of a penalty as it is a bonus... sure the reach kicks some major booty, but still.

WotC!! Leave well enough alone! .... cease and desist with the reprinting races you've already covered! If ya wanna errata something, leave it on the web, we don't need anymore "useless" filler.[/soapbox]

 

[IanB]

Duergar isn't half-bad.

 

[WolfgangGrafVonBek]

Best +1

From Tome of Magic
Dark Creature

+10 speed (to all Modes)
darkvison +superior low light
Hide in Plain Sight!
cold 10
+8 hide +6 Move silently

seems a bit much.

 

[Drowbane]

From Tome of Magic
Dark Creature

+10 speed (to all Modes)
darkvison +superior low light
Hide in Plain Sight!
cold 10
+8 hide +6 Move silently

seems a bit much.

Is that everything it gets? No penalties? o.0

 

[Seeten]

Extraplanar subtype. Thats the only thing missing from that list.

 

[Drowbane]

Extraplanar subtype. Thats the only thing missing from that list.

Hmm, I can live with that...

My thanks