Your Opnion Of the New Bard Info

[Merlion]

Well, now we know that bards in 3.5 are not going to suffer spell failure when wearing armor, their going to be getting new spells, and new bardic music abilities.
What do you guys think of this?
Do you think bard spell are now going to have only verbal components?
What sort of new spells do you think they'll be getting? What do you think they should get?
And, same question with Bardic Music? What will they get, what should they get?
Bard is one of my favorite classes and the proposed changes to them in 3.5 is one of the things I am fully happy about. No spell failure is great and I hope it means bard spells will be verbal only.
I think they need more unquie spells, and maybe a few more combat/offensive spells.
Bardic Music...I think an Emotion effect is a must...along with maybe one or two more that effect combat...maybe one that enhances spellcasters the way Inspire Courage/Greatness helps melee types.

 

[Felix]

I'm happy to hear of the proposed changes myself.

As far as spell failure, I hope that means they remove 10-20% chance or thereabouts, so that they can wear light armor effectively, but you won't see bards running around in full plate.

New spells? More sonics. More enchantment. I think that should be their purview; Loud, but not blasty fireballish, spells seem to be in order.

Bardic Music abilities? An emotion effect would be very nice indeed, ranging from being able to make listeners cry, to be scared, to be in love, to feel joyous. There should be great flexibility at the high end of the bardic music spectrum. Along the lines of Inspire Courage and Inspire Greatness: How about Inspire Frenzy (similar to Frenzied Berzerker's)? Inspire Sorrow (-X to att and damage)?

I think the main thrust should be to augment the Bard's role as the backup. He still won't be the best at specialized stuff, but man, can he do a lot of.

 

[Merlion]

It looks like spell failure for bards is going away completely. I just hope material and somatic components for bard spells are going with it.
I think things along the lines of the Sonic Lance spell on the WOTC website would be nice.
I was refering to a Bardic Music function that duplicates the Emotion spell(and prolly remove the spell from their list). It just seems like a great way to do it

 

[ForceUser]

Love it. Sounds great. Can't wait.

 

[Lord Ravinous]

Bards are evil

 

[Merlion]

Bards are evil

If you cant post something nice, dont post anything at all

 

[Joseph Elric Smith]

If you cant post something nice, dont post anything at all

Well that would be one way to eliminate over half the posts.
ken

 

[Nightfall]

Just means for me that SL bards aren't going to have to worry about arcane heat. That and the fact that I'm curious to see how the Player's Guide to Wizards, Bards and Sorcerers turns out.

 

[Remathilis]

Need more spell slot... too many good spells to choose from, but not enough slots...

I'm looking forward to a good, usable bard. Can't Wait

 

[Saeviomagy]

I kind of thought the bard shouldn't have spontaenous casting... limited spells known per level really restricts his versatility (which is to me what the bard is all about).