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Your Thoughts on the Matrix Revolutions?
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reapersaurus
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I just gotta say:
Tsyr- those rhymes of yours were very impressive.
Tsyr- those rhymes of yours were very impressive.
Kesh
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Saw the 12:30 pm showing of Matrix Revolutions today. So, here's my thoughts.
Short version, without spoilers: it did a good job of tying together the plot and providing a good ending to the story. Not everything was cleanly answered, but most of it was laid out for us. There wasn't as much action as the previous two films, but a lot more large, military-style events. So it wasn't as gripping, but still very fun.
Oh, and don't sit through the end credits. There's nothing special afterwards.
Now, on to the main review...
I'll start off by mentioning the trailers before the film. Looks like there's a new film based on Marvel's The Punisher comics. Doesn't look too bad, might even be fun, but I was never fond of Punisher anyway.
Another Fast and the Furious rip-off, but by the original creators. This one is motorcycles, called Torque.
A sweet, sweet trailer for a thriller called Mindhunters. FBI trainees, specializing in serial killers, are finally about to finish their training and have to go through an exercise simulating the events of a deranged killer. Unfortunately... someone really is a psychotic killer, which is discovered when one of the traps is real and kills an agent. But.. the only people on the island are the trainees and their teachers.
The trailer for Troy blew me away. It's the Trojan War done Gladiator style. 'nuff said.
And, the teaser trailer for Return of the King. I was hoping for the full trailer, but oh well. On to the movie!
The Matrix: Revolutions
No intro. No flashbacks. You jump right in where we left off, with minimal exposition to set up the story. Might want to go rent/rewatch Matrix Reloaded before you go to the theater.
Zion is less than a day from destruction. Neo is in a coma... and Bane/Smith is unconscious right beside him. So, now what?
Overall, I'd give Revolutions 3 out of 5 stars as part of the trilogy, 2 out of 5 as a film you see by itself without watching Reloaded first. They really are one big movie, so watching them back-to-back would make it flow a lot better.
Personally, I hope that someday the brothers edit together Reloaded, Enter the Matrix and Revolutions into one extra-large director's cut someday. Dunno how that'd fit on a single DVD though.
Short version, without spoilers: it did a good job of tying together the plot and providing a good ending to the story. Not everything was cleanly answered, but most of it was laid out for us. There wasn't as much action as the previous two films, but a lot more large, military-style events. So it wasn't as gripping, but still very fun.
Oh, and don't sit through the end credits. There's nothing special afterwards.
Now, on to the main review...
I'll start off by mentioning the trailers before the film. Looks like there's a new film based on Marvel's The Punisher comics. Doesn't look too bad, might even be fun, but I was never fond of Punisher anyway.
Another Fast and the Furious rip-off, but by the original creators. This one is motorcycles, called Torque.
A sweet, sweet trailer for a thriller called Mindhunters. FBI trainees, specializing in serial killers, are finally about to finish their training and have to go through an exercise simulating the events of a deranged killer. Unfortunately... someone really is a psychotic killer, which is discovered when one of the traps is real and kills an agent. But.. the only people on the island are the trainees and their teachers.
The trailer for Troy blew me away. It's the Trojan War done Gladiator style. 'nuff said.
And, the teaser trailer for Return of the King. I was hoping for the full trailer, but oh well. On to the movie!
The Matrix: Revolutions
No intro. No flashbacks. You jump right in where we left off, with minimal exposition to set up the story. Might want to go rent/rewatch Matrix Reloaded before you go to the theater.
Zion is less than a day from destruction. Neo is in a coma... and Bane/Smith is unconscious right beside him. So, now what?
We do learn a lot in this film. Programs can gain emotions, or a relatively close approximation thereof. They have just as much choice as humans, but most programs choose not to fight their purpose.
Choice is the real focus of the story, which is delivered with just the right amount of firmness. Not over the top, not too subtle.
Neo's ability to affect machines in the real world wasn't actually explained, nor his ability to access the Matrix without a link. I suppose that's a suspension of disbelief point, though a tough one to make.
The effects were, of course, excellent. Great job blending CGI with real actors this time, nothing as blatant as the "Burly Brawl" in the second film. The APCs, or mini-mechs as I like to call them, were pretty well done. I especially liked how they had to be reloaded with ammo, which came to be a critical part of the story.
The Neo/Bane fight was pretty well done. A decent reason for the strobe-light effect, and I was shocked by Neo being blinded. It really fits the archetype though... made blind, so he can 'see'. Though the makeup people saved money by putting the blindfold on him.
I liked the Machine City. Interesting visual design. The Big Floating Head was pretty cheesy though.
And finally, the Neo/Smith fight. I figured out how Neo was going to win back when I first saw Reloaded, but it was interesting to see how he got there. The FX were great, the combat was fun (if a bit hard to actually see) and the solution made sense.
My biggest complaint with the film was the death scenes. The APC captain and Trinity should've been dead, dead, dead... instead, they managed to have a nice conversation and say everything they needed to before dying. Gah.
There was very little of the signature hand-to-hand combat in this movie. Carrie-Ann Moss got to do her favorite bits, though, during the "Hell Club" fight. Including her classic jump-hover-kick from the first film. Nice to see that again.
I wish the Merovingian had died. Damn, patronizing, rambling... grrf.
Choice is the real focus of the story, which is delivered with just the right amount of firmness. Not over the top, not too subtle.
Neo's ability to affect machines in the real world wasn't actually explained, nor his ability to access the Matrix without a link. I suppose that's a suspension of disbelief point, though a tough one to make.
The effects were, of course, excellent. Great job blending CGI with real actors this time, nothing as blatant as the "Burly Brawl" in the second film. The APCs, or mini-mechs as I like to call them, were pretty well done. I especially liked how they had to be reloaded with ammo, which came to be a critical part of the story.
The Neo/Bane fight was pretty well done. A decent reason for the strobe-light effect, and I was shocked by Neo being blinded. It really fits the archetype though... made blind, so he can 'see'. Though the makeup people saved money by putting the blindfold on him.
I liked the Machine City. Interesting visual design. The Big Floating Head was pretty cheesy though.
And finally, the Neo/Smith fight. I figured out how Neo was going to win back when I first saw Reloaded, but it was interesting to see how he got there. The FX were great, the combat was fun (if a bit hard to actually see) and the solution made sense.
My biggest complaint with the film was the death scenes. The APC captain and Trinity should've been dead, dead, dead... instead, they managed to have a nice conversation and say everything they needed to before dying. Gah.
There was very little of the signature hand-to-hand combat in this movie. Carrie-Ann Moss got to do her favorite bits, though, during the "Hell Club" fight. Including her classic jump-hover-kick from the first film. Nice to see that again.
I wish the Merovingian had died. Damn, patronizing, rambling... grrf.
Overall, I'd give Revolutions 3 out of 5 stars as part of the trilogy, 2 out of 5 as a film you see by itself without watching Reloaded first. They really are one big movie, so watching them back-to-back would make it flow a lot better.
Personally, I hope that someday the brothers edit together Reloaded, Enter the Matrix and Revolutions into one extra-large director's cut someday. Dunno how that'd fit on a single DVD though.
Kesh
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Starman said:
Keep in mind that, in Reloaded, he was accessing the 'code' that made up Trinity to remove the bullet 'code', then using her link to force her heart to restart. In this film, she had real re-bar through her chest. That kind of damage can't be changed. He can affect machines, he can affect code, he can even affect people plugged into the Matrix... but he's not all-powerful.
Mathew_Freeman
Adventurer
Yeah,
Trinity died in the real world. Ain't nothing Neo can do about that.
In another note, can someone confirm that the Indian guy in the train station is the same one that we spotted in the Merovingian's resturant in Reloaded?
I also thought that this one had the right amount of black humour in it. Neo "...but I think you'll have to drive" for example. Neo running back into shot in the train station was another wryly funny moment, as was his reaction. I found myself laughing several times during the movie.
As far as Neo's ability to destroy machines in the real world, I suppose you could say that he can manipulate code wherever he is via the Source, so when facing machines he can destroy them by destroying their code, even if he's not plugged in.
I was surprised Neo didnt' spot Smith in Bane's body as soon as he opened his mouth. I mean, who else do we know that calls him "Mr Anderson"?
In another note, can someone confirm that the Indian guy in the train station is the same one that we spotted in the Merovingian's resturant in Reloaded?
I also thought that this one had the right amount of black humour in it. Neo "...but I think you'll have to drive" for example. Neo running back into shot in the train station was another wryly funny moment, as was his reaction. I found myself laughing several times during the movie.
As far as Neo's ability to destroy machines in the real world, I suppose you could say that he can manipulate code wherever he is via the Source, so when facing machines he can destroy them by destroying their code, even if he's not plugged in.
I was surprised Neo didnt' spot Smith in Bane's body as soon as he opened his mouth. I mean, who else do we know that calls him "Mr Anderson"?
Macbeth
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Tallarn said:Yeah,Trinity died in the real world. Ain't nothing Neo can do about that.
In another note, can someone confirm that the Indian guy in the train station is the same one that we spotted in the Merovingian's resturant in Reloaded?
I also thought that this one had the right amount of black humour in it. Neo "...but I think you'll have to drive" for example. Neo running back into shot in the train station was another wryly funny moment, as was his reaction. I found myself laughing several times during the movie.
As far as Neo's ability to destroy machines in the real world, I suppose you could say that he can manipulate code wherever he is via the Source, so when facing machines he can destroy them by destroying their code, even if he's not plugged in.
I was surprised Neo didnt' spot Smith in Bane's body as soon as he opened his mouth. I mean, who else do we know that calls him "Mr Anderson"?
The indian guy says that he worked for the merovingian. Is he the same actor? I don't know. But is he the same character? Yes.
Kesh
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Tallarn said:
Positive ID, yes. He even says as much in the film.
Same here. Most of the other audience members weren't laughing quite as much as me, though, so I guess some of the jokes didn't work for everyone.
I was surprised Neo didnt' spot Smith in Bane's body as soon as he opened his mouth. I mean, who else do we know that calls him "Mr Anderson"?
Yeah, really.
Plus, the actor playing Bane had Hugo Weaving's personality quirks and pattern of speech down pat. Sounded perfect.
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