trappedslider
Hero
Well, time to resub to hbomax next month
-
NOW LIVE! -- One-Page Adventures for D&D 5th Edition on Kickstarter! A booklet of colourful one-page adventures for D&D 5th Edition ranging from levels 1-9 and designed for a single session of play.
Zack Snyder's Justice League - Official Trailer
- Thread starter trappedslider
- Start date
ShinHakkaider
Adventurer
I know people are excited about this and I'm happy for them but I have no interest in this iteration of these characters. When they decide to make a hopeful, altruistic and lighter tone for Superman? I'm there. But this is very much not for me.
trappedslider
Hero
This is the Synder cut of the Justice league movie that was released back in 2017. He had to leave the film to the death of his daughter during post-production,which is when Joss Whedon took over and we got what was released.
ShinHakkaider
Adventurer
I know the history. I'm also aware of the somewhat toxic advocacy for the release of this particular cut of the film.
Like I said, I'm hope people enjoy it. I wont be watching it or anything else from ZS in the DCU until he's gone and someone who's up for a lighter take on these heroes is up to bat.
Hmm. Investigation shows there are no plans whatsoever yet to show it here.
ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Admits Handling Of Global Release Schedule Has Been "Not Amazing"
Zack Snyder's Justice League is heading to HBO Max on March 18th in the U.S., but plans for an international rollout remain vague. Now, the filmmaker himself has shared his take on how that's been handled.
Campbell
Legend
I have mixed feelings going in. The visual storytelling in the trailer is really good and I want to see what Snyder can do unfettered. However, I am somewhat ambivalent to him as a film maker. He's made some great films and some terrible ones. I'm pretty sure I will have feels one way or the other.
Man of Steel is a really, really good film. In my top 3 superhero films. So good.
BvS is really good up until the Doomsday bit (that ending and the ending of WW1 were the same special effects package, I think)
Justice League was awful. But we know now it was only 30% original footage. I am keen to see the original vision.
It is. It’s so good. Masterful is the right word.
embee
Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
MoS gets a bum rap.
I liked that it takes a very bold and very different look at Superman's upbringing. Furthermore, it has gotten a lot of hate, largely due to misconceptions.
Jonathan Kent didn't tell Clark he should have let the kids drown. He said "maybe" he should have. As in, he didn't know how to answer to the question. He was protecting his kid from a world that he (rightfully) thought would hate and mistrust him because he's an alien.
Yes. Superman kills Zod. Just like Superman killed Zod in Superman II. Just like Superman killed Zod in the comic book. Superman kills Zod. It's part of the story. The difference is that in Superman II, Superman happily kills a Zod who has been depowered and is not a threat, while in MoS, Superman reluctantly kills Zod to save a family and who will always be an existential threat to Earth.
And, contrary to popular belief, Superman does smile in the movie. Notably, in the scene where's he's interviewed by Lois and responds that the "S" is the Krytponian word for hope.
That's not to say that the movie isn't flawed.
Snyder wasted a major character. The computer would have been a perfect vehicle to bring in Brainiac. Moreover, the church scene was hamfisted.
Overall, it was a necessary reimagining of some of the staler parts of the Superman story.
Imaculata
Hero
I couldn't make it more than 30 minutes into the Joss Whedon version. I really disliked "Batman v Superman" (a joyless film with the most confusing tone of a blockbuster film I've ever seen) and "Wonder Woman 84" (Roger Corman direct-to-video quality there). However, Aquaman was silly fun, and the first Wonder Woman movie was the best balanced of the current DC lineup. "Man of Steel" was ... well, I didn't like it - I guess I'd compare it to whatever the worst MCU movie is - Thor: Dark World?
Watching a 4-hour cut of Justice League feels like watching extended editions of the Hobbit movies, all in Zack Snyder's signature gritty gray color palette.
Watching a 4-hour cut of Justice League feels like watching extended editions of the Hobbit movies, all in Zack Snyder's signature gritty gray color palette.
ShinHakkaider
Adventurer
Kal is who he is because of his moral, midwestern upbringing. In every iteration he's a good person because he was raised to be altruistic, not to take advantage of those weaker than him and to HELP those who cant help themselves.
Arguably, this character? The ZS version? ISNT SUPERMAN. because of John Kent would never have said "Maybe". He might have said "YES, but there's going to be a price to pay for your exposure". But never "maybe".
My son, who was 10 years old when I took him to see it on Fathers Day had HUGE problems with this movie. Specifically Clark NOT saving Johnathan from the tornado. He was so troubled that a son would NOT save his dad that we had an extensive conversation about it walking to the subway from the theater.
I tried to explain to him that as a parent our first and strongest obligation is to protect our children. He listened and understood.
But after a long pause said: "I would STILL would have saved you. You would have been mad. But you would have been ALIVE."
That was one of my biggest problems with MAN OF STEEL as a "superman" movie. Not Kal himself, but the tone and world around him. It's not inspirational. It's not hopeful. It's not humanity looking up at the sky and saying "hey maybe we can be better just like HE is."
It's people suck and even a school bus FULL OF YOUR CLASSMATES might not be worth saving.
Even with me saying all to this MAN OF STEEL is probably my favorite DCU movie. Visually it's AMAZING looking. But it's mostly because I don't view it as a Superman movie. I just look at it as a generic first contact/alien invasion movie. Maybe even an Elseworlds type thing. But (to me) that's not Superman, more importantly it's not the message that Superman would propagate.