Zak Smith is suing his accusers

pemerton · Dec 2, 2019

Jd Smith1 said:
Frankly, I'm so tired of accusations, allegations, rumors, insinuations, and alleged incidents, I really couldn't care less. That's not a great attitude, but there it is.

This seems confused. An allegation by X that Y did such-and-such too her may be true or false. But it's not an insinuation. And it's not a rumour. It is an accusation or an allegation, and I'm not sure why you'd be tired of those given that they're the main way we learn that wrong things have been done to human beings.

Jd Smith1 · Dec 2, 2019

pemerton said:
This seems confused. An allegation by X that Y did such-and-such too her may be true or false. But it's not an insinuation. And it's not a rumour. It is an accusation or an allegation, and I'm not sure why you'd be tired of those given that they're the main way we learn that wrong things have been done to human beings.

In the USA you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Until that point had been reached there is neither a literal, nor legal, difference between accusation, insinuation, and rumor.

Autopsies are the main way way we learn that wrong things have been done to Human beings.

In any case, I don't care, and I'm done with this thread.

Morrus · Dec 2, 2019

Jd Smith1 said:
In any case, I don't care, and I'm done with this thread.

Anybody else want to drop by this thread to tell us all how much they don’t care about it? Will you be doing that with every thread you don’t care about, or is this one special?

Folks, threadcrapping is obnoxious. If you don’t care about a thread, go find one you do care about.

cmad1977 · Dec 2, 2019

Jd Smith1 said:
In the USA you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Until that point had been reached there is neither a literal, nor legal, difference between accusation, insinuation, and rumor.

Autopsies are the main way way we learn that wrong things have been done to Human beings.

In any case, I don't care, and I'm done with this thread.

Nobody cares if you don’t care. Odd that people need to say loudly and often ‘they don’t care!’. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Ancalagon · Dec 2, 2019

Jd Smith1 said:
In the USA you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Until that point had been reached there is neither a literal, nor legal, difference between accusation, insinuation, and rumor.

Autopsies are the main way way we learn that wrong things have been done to Human beings.

In any case, I don't care, and I'm done with this thread.

This is a logical fallacy.

If you are accused of sexual harassment at work, you will probably lose your job, even though there is no court case. If an artist makes racist statements, people will stop buying their albums, even though there were no court case.

Ancalagon · Dec 2, 2019

cmad1977 said:
Nobody cares if you don’t care. Odd that people need to say loudly and often ‘they don’t care!’. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

People who say "I don't care" actually want to say "these issues are not important ", but they can't quite say it for some reason.

dragoner · Dec 2, 2019

Zak I'm sure did everything he's accused of, though being rich, he will be able to walk away without punishment that a normal person would. That is the way the world works.

lowkey13 · Dec 2, 2019

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Sacrosanct · Dec 2, 2019

I think it's going to be really hard to get any sort of thoughtful commentary on this issue because the "sides" have been firmly entrenched for or against Zak for decades for reasons completely unrelated to this particular issue. I.e., people have either defended him to the teeth, or hated his guts, long before these allegations were made, and I suspect those feelings will significantly color any commentary made in regards to this particular issue.

Either way, I suppose my biggest hope is that whoever the victims are in this case, they can get closure and the perpetrator(s) can get held accountable.