Day of the Doctor

[Grumpy RPG Reviews]

Did you not see The Name of the Doctor? That explains what she is, and why she kept appearing and dying. There's more than three of her.

I've not seen that episode.

 

[Morrus]

I've not seen that episode.

Oh. Well, try to see it. It directly contradicts your theory. It's the big Clara Explanation episode.

 

[Grumpy RPG Reviews]

Oh well, then I guess Gallifrey is embodies in Capaldi's Angry Eyes.

Also, it occurs to me the fate of the Moment is not revealed. I expect it is in a closet in the Tardis somewhere.

 

[MarkB]

My only disappointment was that, having finally got to see the Time War, all that we really saw of it was one final, very straightforward engagement.

This was supposed to be the war that shattered the universe, time being rewritten over and over again by either side, the escalation of paradoxes conjuring into being strange and terrible threats - the Nightmare Child, the Could've-been King, the Horde of Travesties. But we didn't get to see any of that.

What we did get to see, I enjoyed a lot. I'd just have liked it a little more epic. Ah well, maybe they'll touch on those parts if they ever do get round to telling the story of Gallifrey's return.

 

[Morrus]

My only disappointment was that, having finally got to see the Time War, all that we really saw of it was one final, very straightforward engagement.

This was supposed to be the war that shattered the universe, time being rewritten over and over again by either side, the escalation of paradoxes conjuring into being strange and terrible threats - the Nightmare Child, the Could've-been King, the Horde of Travesties. But we didn't get to see any of that.

I thought this x1000%. The Time War turns out to be some people shooting at daleks with laser guns. Agreed, completely. This is there RRD's glorious imagination was failed by Moffat's pragmatism.

 

[Herschel]

Yeah, I would have liked a little....more/something else of the time war. I was kind of glad Rose took the form she did. I also loved the Capaldi drop-in and at first I thought he, not Baker, might be the curator but either way it was pretty cool. I had some people over for gaming, lunch and then viewing the special.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I thought this x1000%. The Time War turns out to be some people shooting at daleks with laser guns. Agreed, completely. This is there RRD's glorious imagination was failed by Moffat's pragmatism.

Yeah, i thought the effects for the war were good, but the scope didn't meet what I had built up in my mind.

 

[Morrus]

Yeah, i thought the effects for the war were good, but the scope didn't meet what I had built up in my mind.

As RTD said: never show the Time War. Never show the Clone Wars. You can only underwhelm the imagination.

 

[Jester David]

My only disappointment was that, having finally got to see the Time War, all that we really saw of it was one final, very straightforward engagement.


This was supposed to be the war that shattered the universe, time being rewritten over and over again by either side, the escalation of paradoxes conjuring into being strange and terrible threats - the Nightmare Child, the Could've-been King, the Horde of Travesties. But we didn't get to see any of that.


What we did get to see, I enjoyed a lot. I'd just have liked it a little more epic. Ah well, maybe they'll touch on those parts if they ever do get round to telling the story of Gallifrey's return.

I thought this x1000%. The Time War turns out to be some people shooting at daleks with laser guns. Agreed, completely. This is there RRD's glorious imagination was failed by Moffat's pragmatism.

Agreed, but traveling back in time and trying to erase people's future or killing ancestors is a little less dramatic.
We never saw the Time War (apart from Genesis of the Daleks) just what ended up being a battle in the Time War. But I'll forgive this as that wasn't the story being told, and the Time War is a bit big for one special. It'd be like trying to summarize both World Wars and the Cold War in a single hour-long special.

Plus so much of the horrors of the Time War are things better left as vague horrors, where the imaginations of the fans will always be better. They sound better than they would look. You can name drop the "Horde of Travesties" and it sounds like the worst thing ever, but once you CGI it into existence it's just another Who monster. It's like Lovecraft and why the movies will always be unsatisfying as you can' tactically render "non-Euclidian architecture".

The hard bit for the future is dealing with the returned Time Lords, especially when the 10th (sorry, the 11th) Doctor worked so hard to prevent their return, risking death to stop it.
And as the Daleks are still out there, what's to start the Time War starting again?

 

[Morrus]

Or - why just between the Time Lords and the Daleks? Are the Sontarans etc. all chump change? Why wasn't it the Daleks vs the Sontarans? Or the Cybermen? Or a thousand other big races?